Oh wow I wish that font was even remotely readable
exhilaration 16 hours ago [-]
Yes the crazy sci-fi font is hard to read, but I have to give them props for being unique. I even like the grammatical mistakes, it's so different than the ultra-polished stuff we usually see here. This project has personality!
AceJohnny2 11 hours ago [-]
"You have personality. That's not necessarily a good personality, but you have some!"
I did not see it at first as I had JS off. Once I allowed JS the font loaded and .. yuck.
metadat 12 hours ago [-]
If you zoom in it's pretty cool how each letter is a matrix of squares, but agreed - very challenging and distracting to try and read when the end result looks interlaced.
rcleveng 16 hours ago [-]
Agree, had to pop this into chrome devtools to get through the page:
I've got a dot matrix printer somewhere in a box that could reprint that site with all the dot lines, if I manage to find it and connect to a computer. I can't remember if it has a serial or parallel port.
UncleOxidant 10 hours ago [-]
Oh, that's terrible. There's a reason we don't have dot matrix printers anymore.
initramfs 15 hours ago [-]
it would be slightly better if it were black background and green ink
systems 14 hours ago [-]
for me zooming out to 67% worked fine
marci 9 hours ago [-]
Strangely true.
einpoklum 12 hours ago [-]
At first I thought Artanis was a new font! And even reading the text I couldn't shake the impression that they were offering me this weird font with each character cut up by horizontal lines.
When I zoomed in it looks kind of cute. Maybe I should download the Artanis font after all.
slater 12 hours ago [-]
I know we're not supposed to go off on website stuff (per guidelines: "Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage") but jfc who thought this design was even remotely a good idea?
mindcrime 11 hours ago [-]
Somebody who doesn't want the same bland, boring, homogenized look that every other website in the world is using?
Personally I like a site that shows a bit of personality. It's quirky, but for an open source web framework written in Guile, it looks about perfect to me.
viraptor 11 hours ago [-]
I agree and it's a fun look. If anyone actually can't read it, the reader mode button is available and works just fine.
zelphirkalt 13 hours ago [-]
I don't see any unreadable parts and found it very readable. I guess yet again saved by not downloading random web fonts onto my machine or not running random JS. Yay! Blocking unnecessary traffic for the win!
vvillena 13 hours ago [-]
It's definitely a design non-conforming with the current customs, but it's also a fine choice for this type of project. It feels like bland minimalist design has become so prevalent that people are horrified by any deviation from the expected norm. Not everything has to be designed for maximum contrast and readability, sometimes projects require a bit of flair.
01HNNWZ0MV43FF 16 hours ago [-]
> it's a web application framework written in Guile Scheme
AdmiralAsshat 15 hours ago [-]
> In the beginning, Artanis was largely inspired by Ruby on Rails to generate the scaffold code as possible. And the URL remapping API was inspired by Sinatra, another web framework of Ruby. That's why it's named "Artanis", since it's the revserse of "Sinatra".
And here I thought (and I'm assuming others, based on the cheeky comments) it was named for the Starcraft character.
Chabsff 12 hours ago [-]
You're not as wrong as you think you are.
"Have you ever said my name backwards? There is a strange music to it" - Artanis (SC2 LOTV)
sourcepluck 16 hours ago [-]
> GNU Artanis is both the official project of GNU operating system, and HardenedLinux community.
In what capacity is Artanis an official project of the HardenedLinux community? I'm curious what this means.
ammanley 16 hours ago [-]
The Executor struggles to decipher the font of the document.
NeutralForest 17 hours ago [-]
Looks cool but I wish it were available with other package managers than guix :'( It makes a kinda hard to try out just for fun.
I know, not an amazing alternative imo as they're also saying it takes a long time. I just wish I didn't need to be all in into Guix to easily play around with such projects, which aside from that, look really cool.
CarpaDorada 15 hours ago [-]
They say it takes a long time to build Guile, the Scheme compiler, not Artanis. I can build guile in less than 2 minutes on my old laptop.
amock 6 hours ago [-]
On my POWER9 system it took 45 minutes.
sourcepluck 15 hours ago [-]
Did you catch that page there aside from the manual, where they describe how to install it on Ubuntu? https://artanis.dev/blog/build-0.6-ubuntu.html it seems quite detailed, maybe it wouldn't be so bad to get through.
You would then use your "guix" command at the terminal to download any of the 29,253 packages here https://packages.guix.gnu.org/ (or just artanis).
zelphirkalt 13 hours ago [-]
You can use guix on any GNU/Linux distro afaik. If you create a guix profile for a project, it should be fairly simple to use that to install artanis. With guix time-machine you can also make reproducible setups, to ensure you can run your stuff years later.
But the most basic use of installing artanis in the default profile should also work.
Where do you see the difficulties installing artanis with guix?
Nice! is it R7RS compatible? or just specific to Guile?
cassepipe 16 hours ago [-]
;; NOTE: I won't encourage using Racket but if you really want,
;; I still give you some hints in this tutorial. But the
;; tutorial will base on Guile and RnRs.
;; NOTE: I won't encourage using Racket but if you really want,
That's two random, unrelated lightweight jabs at Racket I've seen in the past two days.
Why does Racket have this "bad" reputation in the Scheme community?
zelphirkalt 13 hours ago [-]
Not sure. I could imagine it being because it is no longer a Scheme, or the creators and maintainers do no longer want it to be seen as a Scheme. Or perhaps because it introduces differences not adhering to the Scheme standards and therefore Schemers do not like it.
I liked Racket. I only found it difficult to use multiple cores dynamically with it and its places concept and lifting and multiple Racket VMs and all that. Guile seems easier in that regard. But Racket has typed racket and more advanced macro system ...
fithisux 15 hours ago [-]
I love their homepage.
bainganbharta 14 hours ago [-]
Perhaps it's time for an eye exam?
f1refly 11 hours ago [-]
What's not to like?
sourcepluck 7 hours ago [-]
I think it's cool too! People can be so pedestrian when it comes to these things, and so upset when there's a deviation from the norm. Both Artanis' manual and the nice scheme tutorial use interesting fonts and layouts (and clear to read!).
zelias 15 hours ago [-]
En Taro Adun!
rubiquity 14 hours ago [-]
I'm sure this web framework will have many zealots.
debo_ 14 hours ago [-]
We know it has at least one arbiter!
Rendered at 07:42:48 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time) with Vercel.
https://www.dafont.com/dune-rise.font
I did not see it at first as I had JS off. Once I allowed JS the font loaded and .. yuck.
let newStyle = document.createElement('style'); newStyle.innerHTML = 'body { font-family: "Verdana"; background-color: #eee}'; document.head.appendChild(newStyle);
When I zoomed in it looks kind of cute. Maybe I should download the Artanis font after all.
Personally I like a site that shows a bit of personality. It's quirky, but for an open source web framework written in Guile, it looks about perfect to me.
And here I thought (and I'm assuming others, based on the cheeky comments) it was named for the Starcraft character.
"Have you ever said my name backwards? There is a strange music to it" - Artanis (SC2 LOTV)
In what capacity is Artanis an official project of the HardenedLinux community? I'm curious what this means.
Otherwise, you don't have to change OS to run guix the package manager, it can be installed on a "foreign distro", i.e., on top of Debian, or something else. Details here https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Installation.html
You would then use your "guix" command at the terminal to download any of the 29,253 packages here https://packages.guix.gnu.org/ (or just artanis).
But the most basic use of installing artanis in the default profile should also work.
Where do you see the difficulties installing artanis with guix?
https://artanis.dev/scheme.html
Why does Racket have this "bad" reputation in the Scheme community?
I liked Racket. I only found it difficult to use multiple cores dynamically with it and its places concept and lifting and multiple Racket VMs and all that. Guile seems easier in that regard. But Racket has typed racket and more advanced macro system ...