Beyond that, Intel recently updated their manual to retroactively define the behavior of BSR/BSF on zero inputs: it leaves the destination register unmodified. This matches the AMD manual, and I suspect it matches the behavior of all existing x86-64 processors (but that will need to be tested, I guess).
If so, you don't need either a branch or CMOV. Just set a register to 32, then run BSR with the same register as destination. If the BSR input is nonzero, the 32 is overwritten with the trailing-zero count. If the BSR input is zero, then BSR leaves the register unmodified and you get 32.
Since this behavior is now guaranteed for future x86-64 processors, and assuming it's indeed compatible with all existing x86-64 processors (maybe even all x86 processors period?), LLVM will no longer need the old path regardless of what it's targeting.
Note that if you're targeting a newer x86-64 version, LLVM will just emit TZCNT, which just does what you'd expect and returns 32 if the input is zero (or 64 for a 64-bit TZCNT). But as the blog post demonstrates, many people still build for baseline x86_64.
(Intel does document one discrepancy between processors: "On some older processors, use of a 32-bit operand size may clear the upper 32 bits of a 64-bit destination while leaving the lower 32 bits unmodified.")
koala_man 1 hours ago [-]
I'm surprised there are no UTF-8 specific decode instructions yet, the way ARM has "FJCVTZS - Floating-point Javascript Convert to Signed fixed-point, rounding toward Zero"
jsheard 5 minutes ago [-]
FJCVTZS isn't really as specific to Javascript as the name suggests, it directly copies the semantics of the equivalent x86 instruction, which JS took it's semantics from. ARM obviously doesn't want to namedrop x86 so they call it a JS instruction instead.
If you have access to the BMI2 instruction set I can do branchless UTF-8 encoding like in the article using only 9 instructions and 73 bytes of lookup tables:
You can also very trivially do (codepoint | 1).leading_zeros(), then you can also shave one byte off the LEN table. (This doesn't affect the result because LEN[32] == LEN[33] == 1).
Arnavion 3 hours ago [-]
>So on x86_64 processors, we have to branch to say “a 32-bit zero value has 32 leading zeros”. Put differently, the “count leading zeros” intrinsic isn’t necessarily a branchless instruction. This might look nicer on another architecture!
Yes, RISC-V for example defines the instructions for counting leading / trailing zeros (clz, clzw, ctz, ctzw) such that an N-bit zero value has N of them.
I don't know if I can show it on Rust Godbolt because none of the default RISC-V targets that Rust has support the Zbb extension, but I checked with a custom target that I use locally for my emulator, and `leading_zeros()` indeed compiles to just one `clz` without any further branches. Here's a C demonstration though: https://gcc.godbolt.org/z/cKx3ajsjh
Or-ing 1 onto codepoint before calling leading_zeroes() should get a decent compiler to remove the branch.
Dwedit 1 hours ago [-]
Wouldn't branchless UTF-8 encoding always write 3 bytes to RAM for every character (possibly to the same address)?
ngoldbaum 59 minutes ago [-]
You could do two passes over the string, first get the total length in bytes, then fill it in codepoint by codepoint.
You could also pessimistically over-allocate assuming four bytes per character and then resize afterwards.
With the API in the linked blog post it's up to the user to decide how they want to use the output [u8;4] array.
lxgr 3 hours ago [-]
> Compiler explorer confirms that, with optimizations enabled, this function is branchless.
Only if you don't consider conditional move instructions branching/cheating :)
ThatGuyRaion 3 hours ago [-]
So is this potentially performance improving?.
PhilipRoman 3 hours ago [-]
Last time I tested branchless UTF-8 algorithms, I came to the conclusion that they only perform [slightly] better for text consisting of foreign multibyte characters. Unless you expect lots of such inputs on the hot path, just go with traditional algorithms instead. Even in the worst case the difference isn't that big.
Sometimes people fail to appreciate how insanely fast a predictable branch really is.
not2b 3 hours ago [-]
Usually people are interested in branchless implementations for cryptography applications, to avoid timing side channels (though you then have to make sure that the generated instructions don't have different timing for different input values), and will pay some time penalty if they have to.
jan_haker 2 hours ago [-]
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First of all, a recent LLVM patch apparently changes codegen to use CMOV instead of a branch:
https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/pull/102885
Beyond that, Intel recently updated their manual to retroactively define the behavior of BSR/BSF on zero inputs: it leaves the destination register unmodified. This matches the AMD manual, and I suspect it matches the behavior of all existing x86-64 processors (but that will need to be tested, I guess).
If so, you don't need either a branch or CMOV. Just set a register to 32, then run BSR with the same register as destination. If the BSR input is nonzero, the 32 is overwritten with the trailing-zero count. If the BSR input is zero, then BSR leaves the register unmodified and you get 32.
Since this behavior is now guaranteed for future x86-64 processors, and assuming it's indeed compatible with all existing x86-64 processors (maybe even all x86 processors period?), LLVM will no longer need the old path regardless of what it's targeting.
Note that if you're targeting a newer x86-64 version, LLVM will just emit TZCNT, which just does what you'd expect and returns 32 if the input is zero (or 64 for a 64-bit TZCNT). But as the blog post demonstrates, many people still build for baseline x86_64.
(Intel does document one discrepancy between processors: "On some older processors, use of a 32-bit operand size may clear the upper 32 bits of a 64-bit destination while leaving the lower 32 bits unmodified.")
Not if you're targeting x86-64-v3 or higher. Haswell (Intel) and Piledriver (AMD) introduced the LZCNT instruction that doesn't have this problem.
Yes, RISC-V for example defines the instructions for counting leading / trailing zeros (clz, clzw, ctz, ctzw) such that an N-bit zero value has N of them.
I don't know if I can show it on Rust Godbolt because none of the default RISC-V targets that Rust has support the Zbb extension, but I checked with a custom target that I use locally for my emulator, and `leading_zeros()` indeed compiles to just one `clz` without any further branches. Here's a C demonstration though: https://gcc.godbolt.org/z/cKx3ajsjh
https://gist.github.com/Validark/457b6db8aa00ded26a6681d4d25...
You could also pessimistically over-allocate assuming four bytes per character and then resize afterwards.
With the API in the linked blog post it's up to the user to decide how they want to use the output [u8;4] array.
Only if you don't consider conditional move instructions branching/cheating :)
Sometimes people fail to appreciate how insanely fast a predictable branch really is.