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Leaked Apple meeting shows how dire the Siri situation is (theverge.com)
crooked-v 24 minutes ago [-]
The basic problem here for Apple is that LLMs will never actually be able to avoid prompt injection issues, and the entire "personal awareness" set of functionality they're trying to make uses LLMs. Unless somebody at Apple invents a new state of the art, it's not going to happen.

With that said, I'm surprised they haven't yet at least replaced the 'dumb' Siri commands with something that's effectively an LLM translation layer for an internal API. That would get significantly better experience (even a dumb LLM is way better at understanding natural language directions than Siri) with no 'personal awareness' stuff needed.

djohnston 26 minutes ago [-]
This problem of non-technical product folks over-promising features is going to get much worse in the age of LLMs. The models are incredibly adept at providing a proof-of-concept. But it's often a monumental endeavour to cross the gap between 70% and 90% accurcacy; 90%-95% even more. This long-tail pain isn't new, but the ability for non-technical folks to poke a model on a chat site and then assume their idea is ready to be deployed to production is a more recent phenomenon.
resoluteteeth 24 minutes ago [-]
I have an android phone and switching google assistant to gemini made it worse for the fairly basic things I actually use google assistant for, like setting reminders, so I switched it back.

Are people really clamoring for AI in the voice assistant on their phone?

jsheard 4 minutes ago [-]
> so I switched it back.

Google has decided you don't actually want to do that.

https://blog.google/products/gemini/google-assistant-gemini-...

later this year, the classic Google Assistant will no longer be accessible on most mobile devices

juujian 13 minutes ago [-]
Yup, had to stop using it, next step was to get rid of Gemini altogether. It's so weird to claim you give people an advanced AI when actually you are removing a whole bunch of features.
pram 18 minutes ago [-]
My Nest can still only get “ok google turn on the light” the second time I say it. Good shit!
gscott 25 minutes ago [-]
It seems there should be two intelligent agents Siri which takes commands and does them and then some other agent that is an llm that you can call up with a different call name. By separating the two you solve all the problems.
AlexandrB 12 minutes ago [-]
But that doesn't match the marketing vision of the product and brand identity. /s
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