I've searched for "sandwich murder" and did not find what I was looking for, but the way the elisions line up are sometimes pretty funny. I've also learned that Subway shops are among the most dangerous eateries and that bologna especially seems to make people irritable enough to open fire. A few highlights for your consideration, redacted to protect the innocent, guilty, or hungry bystanders
- that the evidence that defendant fired the murder weapon during the sandwich
- bologna sandwich found at the crime scene
- presence in sandwich the morning of the murder
- ways in which they could murder her mother. these included the sandwich ... sandwich incident could not be used
- crime of capital murder. as a habitual offender, sentenced to life ... to the "bologna sandwich" constituted reversible error
- coroner testified that victim had eaten a fish sandwich within 2 hours ... prior to his death
- it was not first degree murder, and the court should have ... sandwich. he paid for the sandwich, but did not pay for the coffee
- convicted of malice murder and possession of a ... sandwich
- she was shot and that she had some change in one hand and a sandwich in the other ... sandwich in your hand kind of slow your progress down in getting a gun out of your ... sandwich
sizzle 293 days ago [-]
The way they lay out their triangle cheese slices and skimp on toppings does it for me
xeromal 294 days ago [-]
I grew up in a small town of 5000 in rural US and the first murder in the city that I remember was a guy who killed another guy in a subway. It was one of 2 that I remember in about 18 years
frogpelt 294 days ago [-]
There are a lot of Subways and many times they are in strip malls and gas stations. That could be an explanation. Can’t explain the bologna part.
hoten 294 days ago [-]
I searched my name. It gave me a hit for someone (criminal trespass) in Texas, in a year I lived there, with my exact same height and ~same weight, and the arraignment date is my birthday. Wasn't me. Spooky!
qingcharles 294 days ago [-]
I just helped a guy get 14 crimes removed from his record that he didn't commit. Someone in Texas just continuously committed heinous crimes over a decade or more and they were all just added to this other guy's criminal record. They seemingly had the same first name/initial/last name (fairly common name). I'm assuming dude in Texas was allowed to commit a crime spree because every time he was pulled in front of the court it looked like he was a first time offender.
CobrastanJorji 294 days ago [-]
If that other guy is a from anywhere in Central or South America, I would not go back to Texas any time in the next four years.
m463 294 days ago [-]
Entire search system is a long-con for a "clear your name" business.
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thelittleone 294 days ago [-]
Sleep walker per chance?
almosthere 291 days ago [-]
Won't it be wonderful when some hiring SaaS integrates JudyRecords into their system!
Search my name got the traffic infraction records, but none of the briefs and deposition I filed during discovery.
nemobius 294 days ago [-]
classic
m348e912 293 days ago [-]
I don't know how complete this database is.
I couldn't find any hits on the Alec Balwin manslaughter case for shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and injuring director Joel Souza.
Maybe it's not in the database because the case was dismissed by the presiding judge?
boppo1 293 days ago [-]
I feel like a rich, famous person probably has a lawyer/pr team to help scrub stuff.
IIAOPSW 294 days ago [-]
I appreciate that "we both reached for the gun" and "he had it coming" both turn up more than a handful of hits. "and all that jazz".
NoboruWataya 294 days ago [-]
"I'd do it again" -> 740 million+ hits.
almosthere 294 days ago [-]
Didn't the guy that did this last time get in trouble
Very cool glad this site is still around after the fiasco with the company claiming a hack / breach when it was their own deployment revealing sealed case files.
IG_Semmelweiss 294 days ago [-]
can you elaborate ? how can sealed case files be exposed by a 3rd party index ?
dreamcompiler 294 days ago [-]
Because they weren't sealed. There was no access control on the system. The vendor used obscure URLs claiming they made the system "secure."
And we know how that story always plays out.
IG_Semmelweiss 290 days ago [-]
thank you. That's shocking, and also, I feel almost dumb to ask. Its government contracting, and because you are right, that's how a story plays out.
cynicalpeace 294 days ago [-]
I typed in my name and found my dad likes to drive around without a seat belt. He hates driving with a seat belt. Always has.
I'm a Jr.
dizhn 294 days ago [-]
My name is coming a bunch of times. They are all patents (?) citing something I wrote. What does this mean? Oh. article cited by patent applicant. I didn't know I inspired a bunch of Microsoft patents in the 2010s :D
mikewarot 294 days ago [-]
Apparently it has Patent records as well... here's one of mine.
As a free service, I wonder if the burden of complying with a right to be forgotten would be too much to sustain.
kragen 294 days ago [-]
Under US law, there is no such thing as a right to be forgotten, because it would infringe on the public's right to remember. This is considered especially important when what is being remembered is a lawsuit, where transparency is essential to protecting the public interest.
NoTeslaThrow 293 days ago [-]
> because it would infringe on the public's right to remember
? What are you referring to? I've never heard of such a concept.
kragen 292 days ago [-]
Think about it. If you can, employ reasoning at a deeper level than just repeating slogans and comparing them for lexical equality.
NoTeslaThrow 291 days ago [-]
I'm not sure what a right is if not a "slogan".
kragen 287 days ago [-]
Then why would you comment in the first place? Just to troll, I suppose.
Rights are legal, social, or ethical principles of freedom or entitlement; that is, rights are the fundamental normative rules about what is allowed of people or owed to people according to some legal system, social convention, or ethical theory. Rights are an important concept in law and ethics, especially theories of justice and deontology.
The history of social conflicts has often involved attempts to define and redefine rights. According to the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, "rights structure the form of governments, the content of laws, and the shape of morality as it is currently perceived".
bdangubic 294 days ago [-]
cases are generally expunged after X number of years (X varies state to state but there is always an X).
kragen 294 days ago [-]
Generally not automatically, and not for civil lawsuits or for all crimes, and in the US expungement from court records does not obligate any third party to falsify newspaper archives, etc.: https://ccresourcecenter.org/state-restoration-profiles/50-s...
Almost certainly. Presumably why it’s not available to euros.
Also would be a very strange to apply this so-called “right” when court records are essential to keeping organs of government accountable.
carstenhag 294 days ago [-]
Relatively sure this would be fine in some European countries. In Germany, afaik it's an ongoing question on whether there's a copyright on the records (especially from the lawyer texts).
The names and so on are always censored anyhow, in some cases it's a bit obvious who did things though. If it's a lawsuit about a company and let's say it sells books online, maybe you can tell by 1-2 things what company it is. But for people, it's not so straight forward.
miki123211 294 days ago [-]
> The names and so on are always censored anyhow
This is actually starting to become a problem because computers are getting too good at their job.
Let's say a news site reports on a criminal trial of a John Smith, censored as John S. If John Smith was in any way famous before the trial and had an article written about him, that article is somewhat likely to appear in the "you may also like" sidebar when you're reading the censored one. Some news sites try to suppress this, but I'm not sure they're legally required to do so.
victorbjorklund 293 days ago [-]
im im EU and it is noy blocked here
_bin_ 293 days ago [-]
Right but it only covers American courts.
I presume since it’s free and is likely domiciled/hosted in America, the owner could probably just scrape euro records and tell the EU “lol get bent” if they made a stink, but probably doesn’t want to run the risk.
_bin_ 293 days ago [-]
Right but it only covers American courts.
joekim 294 days ago [-]
I would think so if the right to be forgotten was legal principle in the United States. It only applies in Europe and I don’t think it applies to court records that are public.
miki123211 294 days ago [-]
In Europe, court records aren't public in the same way as they are in the US.
They're not searchable, they're often not even digitized, and the media is generally not allowed to report the full names of those accused.
Where I live, it's literally impossible to run a background check on somebody. If a background check is required, the person of interest has to specifically request an official document from the government proving they haven't been convicted for any crimes, or listing the crimes they have been convicted for. This is pretty common when starting a new job, I have had to do this.
Now there's also a sex offenders registry, which authorized institutions can query directly, although they have to get consent first.
Muromec 293 days ago [-]
>or listing the crimes they have been convicted for. This is pretty common when starting a new job
In the Netherlands it's not even that -- you can ask for a certificate of "good behavior" with a purpose and they just say yes or no. If the purpose is employment, the form asks which sector you will be employed in, because sex offenders can still work somewhere and so do people convicted of financial fraud. You just don't want them to work in specific places, i.e. near kids or banks respectively.
Data minimization is a thing.
NoTeslaThrow 293 days ago [-]
> Where I live, it's literally impossible to run a background check on somebody.
I have a hard time imagine that law enforcement doesn't have access to it. At that point access is given by degree of difficulty and not "impossible". I could buy "illegal" tho.
Muromec 293 days ago [-]
Police maintains the database, so of course they can run a background check. But they don't offer it as a service and don't give away the information to anyone except the person it concerns.
NoTeslaThrow 293 days ago [-]
> But they don't offer it as a service and don't give away the information to anyone except the person it concerns.
Here in the us I know how insubstantial this claim is. If you know enough law enforcement $10 can get you pictures of a full lookup. And this is with a fairly bare relationship.
Muromec 293 days ago [-]
Fair enough, if you think about it from this point of view -- yes, it's not impossible. To put your 10$ in a perspective, the last thing I heard about corrupt cops (literally last week in the news) was a bro who selling license plate readings for 500 euros through his relative (who was selling drugs). He was also smart about using somebody else's password to get them from the system, because of course requests are logged. This one got caught (obviously, this is how we know) and is getting some free accommodation paid for by my taxes. Obviously there are corrupt cops everywhere, but in Western Europe at least cops are not the underpaid power tripping assholes with guns. They also can't just get employed as a cop in a different village after being kicked out for some cop bullshit.
So maybe it's not impossible, but it's not something you would do as part of normal HR screening.
Jolter 294 days ago [-]
I believe it applies to court records, too, as long as the request for deletion is directed at an Internet search engine. The actual court record is not possible to get rid of under the GDPR, you can only make it so your court record is not returned by Google, Bing etc when searching for your name.
ls612 293 days ago [-]
Someone outside Europe should make a search engine that only shows records that Euro politicians don’t want the public to see. The idea of the “right to be forgotten” is horrifying and straight out of 1984, thank god once again for the First Amendment.
Jolter 292 days ago [-]
I don’t know if I agree. As long as search engines are private for-profit enterprises and not a public service, I think this particular regulation is slightly more good than bad.
Tangentially, IMO any 1984 comparisons fall flat when the state is not involved in the censorship in question.
ls612 291 days ago [-]
The state literally requires me to censor if you ask. I can’t speak freely what I know about you under pain of state punishment.
Jolter 291 days ago [-]
Are you an Internet search engine?
Jolter 291 days ago [-]
Jokes aside, the EU page about the GDPR right to be forgotten [1] states:
“ Here are the reasons cited in the GDPR that trump the right to erasure:
The data is being used to exercise the right of freedom of expression and information.[…]”
Including states and counties, I got my traffic ticket result at the county level.
hammock 294 days ago [-]
No and it misses a lot like chancery court
Minor49er 293 days ago [-]
How do I sort the listings? I want to sort by filing date but I don't see the option for sorting. I'm on Firefox Mobile
paustint 294 days ago [-]
All of the five searches I tried had Tennessee court documents as the top result, anyone else experience this?
raegis 294 days ago [-]
Same here. I lived there 30 years ago, and my one speeding ticket in TN shows up first. I've had 2 or 3 "rolling stop sign" tickets in CA and can not find them.
honestinquiryw 293 days ago [-]
How does one send a removal request if an EU citizen is listed in this directory?
iancmceachern 293 days ago [-]
I'm not am expert, but I don't think you can, these are public court records.
victorbjorklund 293 days ago [-]
You cant be removed from the court case. But you can remove the website putting it online.
iancmceachern 293 days ago [-]
The government puts it online, the website is just the search engine.
RKFADU_UOFCCLEL 293 days ago [-]
Ah! But legal people think that all of the following are by and from and are the same person:
- the domain
- the owner of the website
- the content displayed on the website
iancmceachern 293 days ago [-]
Even if the content is dynamically generated or regurgitated from elsewhere?
And more to the point, to what end? If the info is public knowledge it's public knowledge, it's out there already.
brudgers 293 days ago [-]
If it matters, ask your lawyer.
If it doesn’t matter, it doesn’t matter.
TZubiri 294 days ago [-]
Very nice.
Can you do structured field queries?
Like, all cases where defendant is X. And maybe where the cause is Y
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rokob 294 days ago [-]
I can’t find any of the times I’ve been in court. Not sure if good or bad.
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jonsagara 294 days ago [-]
Searching up family members is a dangerous game to play on a Friday night
rightbyte 294 days ago [-]
Ye I don't think it is good that authority gossip get so accessable.
herodotus 293 days ago [-]
Interesting that it includes patents. (Found at least one of mine).
sizzle 293 days ago [-]
Don’t leave us hanging, what’s the nature of your patent??
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the_arun 294 days ago [-]
Are these not available in public search sites like Google?
kevin_thibedeau 294 days ago [-]
They're nominally available on the PACER database for a fee that is waived for infrequent users. Queries from there can be archived by the RECAP extension to make the public records unencumbered.
IG_Semmelweiss 294 days ago [-]
Can you expand on this ?
I searched the DB but it seems i couldnt get the actual docket unless i paid for a PACER sub. Is that right ? This is only an index, but to actually see the court docs, you have to pay someone ?
kevin_thibedeau 294 days ago [-]
You sign up with a CC. At the end of the month they will reverse any charges if you stay below some threshold for number of queries. You will get PDF links to the court filings related to each case.
qingcharles 294 days ago [-]
If it's something you want, email me at my bio and I'll pull it from PACER.
Otherwise, courtlistener has PACER docs that us users exfiltrate from PACER and upload for free.
catlover76 294 days ago [-]
Where is this getting the docs from? It's a lot of work for FLP/Courtlistener to get stuff, and even they don't have 100% of records (not sure if this site is claiming to have 100%, it's unclear)
TZubiri 294 days ago [-]
Probably scraped and aggregated from the various state, municipal and federal courts directly.
comex 294 days ago [-]
At least for federal courts, the records are available on PACER but they cost money. Who is paying?
ETA: which is of course mentioned on the thread root. But RECAP users would be paying, in that case.
ls612 293 days ago [-]
All court records are not copyrightable so once one person gets a document from PACER they are free to upload it to things like RECAP. Allegedly PACER is only allowed to charge enough to cover the infra costs of operating it, and has a pretty generous free tier nowadays so it’s mostly law firms that end up having to pay.
qingcharles 294 days ago [-]
This. Each county pretty much has a unique system though, so it's a pain.
kubb 294 days ago [-]
4,577,166 cases for marijuana.
cwmoore 294 days ago [-]
Really is more about quality than quantity.
morkalork 294 days ago [-]
Smoking Marijuana can ruin your life. Why? Because the state will ruin it for you if they catch you with it!
RKFADU_UOFCCLEL 293 days ago [-]
What is your opinion about Addictive social media or porn?
Sorry, had to.
morkalork 293 days ago [-]
You don't need the government to ruin your life for you with those :)
ranger_danger 293 days ago [-]
Then why do you say it's necessary for smoking?
morkalork 293 days ago [-]
The government doesn't go out of its way to throw people in prison for gooning or doom scrolling too much? But have one roach on you in the wrong state...
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That’s what they all say XD j/k
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30399881
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25150702
I couldn't find any hits on the Alec Balwin manslaughter case for shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and injuring director Joel Souza.
Maybe it's not in the database because the case was dismissed by the presiding judge?
And we know how that story always plays out.
I'm a Jr.
https://www.judyrecords.com/record/qfwy5i5yb1e9
? What are you referring to? I've never heard of such a concept.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rights
Rights are legal, social, or ethical principles of freedom or entitlement; that is, rights are the fundamental normative rules about what is allowed of people or owed to people according to some legal system, social convention, or ethical theory. Rights are an important concept in law and ethics, especially theories of justice and deontology.
The history of social conflicts has often involved attempts to define and redefine rights. According to the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, "rights structure the form of governments, the content of laws, and the shape of morality as it is currently perceived".
A recent law review article on the prospects of this so-called "right" under US law is https://mttlr.org/2020/02/why-the-right-to-be-forgotten-wont..., citing https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/420/469/ ("It is unconstitutional under the First Amendment to criminalize releasing the name of a rape victim or to permit a private right of action against the press for doing so."), and https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/12.... See also https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca2/13....
Also would be a very strange to apply this so-called “right” when court records are essential to keeping organs of government accountable.
The names and so on are always censored anyhow, in some cases it's a bit obvious who did things though. If it's a lawsuit about a company and let's say it sells books online, maybe you can tell by 1-2 things what company it is. But for people, it's not so straight forward.
This is actually starting to become a problem because computers are getting too good at their job.
Let's say a news site reports on a criminal trial of a John Smith, censored as John S. If John Smith was in any way famous before the trial and had an article written about him, that article is somewhat likely to appear in the "you may also like" sidebar when you're reading the censored one. Some news sites try to suppress this, but I'm not sure they're legally required to do so.
I presume since it’s free and is likely domiciled/hosted in America, the owner could probably just scrape euro records and tell the EU “lol get bent” if they made a stink, but probably doesn’t want to run the risk.
They're not searchable, they're often not even digitized, and the media is generally not allowed to report the full names of those accused.
Where I live, it's literally impossible to run a background check on somebody. If a background check is required, the person of interest has to specifically request an official document from the government proving they haven't been convicted for any crimes, or listing the crimes they have been convicted for. This is pretty common when starting a new job, I have had to do this.
Now there's also a sex offenders registry, which authorized institutions can query directly, although they have to get consent first.
In the Netherlands it's not even that -- you can ask for a certificate of "good behavior" with a purpose and they just say yes or no. If the purpose is employment, the form asks which sector you will be employed in, because sex offenders can still work somewhere and so do people convicted of financial fraud. You just don't want them to work in specific places, i.e. near kids or banks respectively.
Data minimization is a thing.
I have a hard time imagine that law enforcement doesn't have access to it. At that point access is given by degree of difficulty and not "impossible". I could buy "illegal" tho.
Here in the us I know how insubstantial this claim is. If you know enough law enforcement $10 can get you pictures of a full lookup. And this is with a fairly bare relationship.
So maybe it's not impossible, but it's not something you would do as part of normal HR screening.
Tangentially, IMO any 1984 comparisons fall flat when the state is not involved in the censorship in question.
“ Here are the reasons cited in the GDPR that trump the right to erasure:
The data is being used to exercise the right of freedom of expression and information.[…]”
[1]https://gdpr.eu/right-to-be-forgotten/
- the domain
- the owner of the website
- the content displayed on the website
And more to the point, to what end? If the info is public knowledge it's public knowledge, it's out there already.
If it doesn’t matter, it doesn’t matter.
Can you do structured field queries?
Like, all cases where defendant is X. And maybe where the cause is Y
I searched the DB but it seems i couldnt get the actual docket unless i paid for a PACER sub. Is that right ? This is only an index, but to actually see the court docs, you have to pay someone ?
Otherwise, courtlistener has PACER docs that us users exfiltrate from PACER and upload for free.
ETA: which is of course mentioned on the thread root. But RECAP users would be paying, in that case.
Sorry, had to.