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German economists push for gold repatriation from U.S. vaults (seekingalpha.com)
direwolf20 8 minutes ago [-]
Why do they think the US will give it to them? After all, last time this happened, the US didn't actually have the gold, it cancelled all gold IOUs — effectively stealing the gold — and that was the Nixon shock. It made the US very wealthy for the next half century.
BartjeD 48 minutes ago [-]
Good idea, Netherlands should follow suit.

The fed is being dismantled in front of our eyes.

Militia's shoot US citizens for documenting their illegal behavior.

Insane

cbeach 38 minutes ago [-]
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watwut 29 minutes ago [-]
They just murdered a guy who was not obstructing them.

They kidnap, beat and then throw away citizens and legal migrants.

lurking_swe 22 minutes ago [-]
i just replied and then saw the comment was flagged LOL. For those that missed it the flagged comment said something stupid like “don’t obstruct ICE and you’ll be fine.”

They are misinformed i’m afraid. This is the BEST case scenario: https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-immigration-us-citizen-...

worst case scenario is you’re sent to another country, or killed.

exe34 18 minutes ago [-]
I'd like them to explain, step by step, how holding a camera to document what ice is doing, can be considered obstruction. Are they doing illegal things that are obstructed by publicly available documentation?
exe34 19 minutes ago [-]
What scares me the most isn't that we got into this situation, but that so many people think it's going well.
afpx 10 minutes ago [-]
I'm looking forward to the days when we can call in the EU's help. But, I assume right now, they're focused on energy, food, and physical security.
indubioprorubik 14 minutes ago [-]
The majority voted for this- this is the will of the people.
Terr_ 5 minutes ago [-]
[delayed]
saubeidl 7 minutes ago [-]
The majority did not. A third did.
indubioprorubik 15 minutes ago [-]
These citizens, never immigrated and integrated. Its islamist, somali family clans, who put up poor mimicry, but never intended to integrate or uphold american values. You can denaturalize yourself in your head - for example by travelling abroad and join ISIS or some neonazi warband in russia. Same goes for somalian ISIS travelling abroad and settling down in minnesota.
saubeidl 9 minutes ago [-]
So, thought crime?

I thought right wingers were all about individual freedoms, now all of a sudden you want to dictate the values of your fellow citizens?

indubioprorubik 17 minutes ago [-]
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saubeidl 11 minutes ago [-]
You know what else was law enforcement? Yes, law enforcement by a democratically elected president?

The Gestapo.

Sometimes the law and its enforcers are the bad guys. Usually around the point where they abduct, brutalize and murder with impunity

Hamuko 17 minutes ago [-]
>Eh, the guy was armed at a protest.

I thought that was a constitutional right?

Terr_ 7 minutes ago [-]
Yeah, and he did everything correctly. Trained, owned, certified, properly stored and never even touched the holster.

ICE didn't even know he had it until they had already already shoved him, pepper-sprayed his face, and thrown him to the ground on on his literal hands and knees.

Then they yanked the untouched gun from his belt, carried it away, and shot him four times in the back.

louthy 36 minutes ago [-]
> Germany holds the world’s second-largest national gold reserves after the United States, with approximately $194B worth — 1,236 metric tons—currently stored at the Federal Reserve in New York

Moving that much gold makes me think that’s a great opportunity for the world’s biggest heist!

cjs_ac 15 minutes ago [-]
That's going to take a lot of Minis!
chmod775 19 minutes ago [-]
If a plan was made to repatriate it, chances are this will happens slowly over years, possibly decades. A lot of it might not even be "moved", but rather "swapped" for gold physically in the EU by means of various vehicles: such as selling gold at a slight loss in the US, and buying gold in the EU. Doing so might be cheaper than arranging for physical transport of large quantities.

When large quantities of gold are actually transported "at once", it usually happens in secret on warships. Maybe military planes would be used nowadays? Who knows. Good luck anyhow.

xg15 12 minutes ago [-]
In normal times, yes. But I'm not sure if that still holds if there is a sense of urgency, because no one knows when Trump might get the next stupid idea.

Also I wonder if the rising gold price would interact with this, though I think this would make the "sell and re-buy" strategy actually more viable, at least if you buy first and then sell.

formerly_proven 12 minutes ago [-]
xg15 7 minutes ago [-]
The French also, well, tried... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exorbitant_privilege#Oppositio...

(well, not really, as it weren't direct gold reserves but gold-backed dollar reserves)

austin-cheney 1 hours ago [-]
Ray Dalio describes such actions as the beginning of the end.
watwut 46 minutes ago [-]
Greenland thing and taking Russia side were beginning of the end. Lying about America never getting help was making the end loud and clear.

This is just Germans dealing with end being unavoidable.

lm28469 2 minutes ago [-]
The beginning of the end started when they came up with project 2025 really, they've been implementing what they said they would implement.
tchalla 3 minutes ago [-]
The beginning of the end started with Nixon. It allowed US to print whatever money and never default. I find it insane that the world went along with it. Seems like a parody.
hunglee2 6 minutes ago [-]
de-risking from the United States is the only choice for anybody who cares about national interests. The question is how to do it on the quiet, and not trigger Trump into another rage tweeted escalation.
seydor 35 minutes ago [-]
Just cash it out. They'll never get it back
tjpnz 28 minutes ago [-]
I hope they've identified US assets of equivalent value to immediately sieze if there's any funny business.
llbbdd 21 minutes ago [-]
It would definitely be fun to watch Germany try to lift that sword.
exe34 17 minutes ago [-]
Rammstein?
usr1106 3 minutes ago [-]
Rammstein is a band. Ramstein is the most important US military bases in Europe. I guess you meant the latter?
bell-cot 32 minutes ago [-]
Given a certain President's thin skin, and inclinations toward dramatic and confrontational behavior - if the Europeans actually wanted their gold back, it should have been done very quietly. Probably with obfuscated paperwork, or other shell games or smokescreens.
qznc 19 minutes ago [-]
Gold price is high, so why not just sell it?

Meanwhile Germany could silently buy gold at home and let the market handle where it comes from.

24 minutes ago [-]
aebtebeten 23 minutes ago [-]
Germans. We (also European) thankfully already got our gold back.
onetokeoverthe 43 minutes ago [-]
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