I’d encourage a change of labels away from “friend/foe”. It may seem minor but the subtle loaded nature of those paired terms encourages an adversarial stance rather than one of productive discourse. It’s not catchy so there’s probably better than this but, just as an example— “engage/ignore” could better signal to the user a neutral “do I want to bother with this person?”
logicprog 57 minutes ago [-]
Agreed, independent of where the terminology came from, I think if you're trying to promote healthier engagement both for yourself and others using this extension, then not having such adversarial names it's probably a good idea. It should just end up being a sort of web of trust to help you decide what's worth engaging with — and sometimes perfectly valid people that you're not actually enemies with or anything just aren't worth your time engaging with because of fundamental axiological or positional differences.
jacquesm 2 hours ago [-]
That's just Slashdot's influence. They did the same thing at some point.
ineedasername 59 minutes ago [-]
Ah, okay-- though that doesn't mean the author can't do better, if I'm not just being too nitpicky.
rustystump 8 minutes ago [-]
I like friend and foe far more than engage and ignore. A foe isnt someone you ignore. Ignoring is what builds bubbles. A foe can often be right even if you disagree.
istillcantcode 4 minutes ago [-]
I have a text file of commentors I normally disagree with and check in on them from time to time (about weekly). Its good fun and often I find there will be topics I do agree with them on. Reading the same opinions all the time is no fun.
How old is that icon set? I swear I used that same peppers icon for a Windows app that I published around 2002.
scrumper 2 hours ago [-]
I wonder what the second order effects of this on the HN karma system will be. It'll create a graph of karmic supernodes perhaps. Say I green-blob someone with a big reputation here, say jacquesm; no doubt lots of other people will do the same. The friends-of-friends icon is going to appear widely but it'll all be a single edge away from Jacques' node. Is that much of a signal? I dunno. That's 30 seconds of thought about it. It's a fun idea though so I'll try it.
Version two: hide foes? Come to think of it, maybe the 'foe' aspect is the fun part...
EDIT: it's like I summoned him.
cousinbryce 5 minutes ago [-]
Pagerank
drcongo 1 hours ago [-]
everybody loves jacquesm
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ddtaylor 24 minutes ago [-]
I created and shared Ethos which is a sentiment and discourse analysis thing for HN and it's been plugging away. You're welcome to use its API if you want. Submit a PR for the CORS to be changed as needed.
Interesting. I'd love to have a browser extension that automatically blocks all comment sections on every site I visit, so I wouldn't feel the need to interact with anyone online.
Hmm, I installed this in Waterfox for Android, and I don't appear to be able to tap on the bubbles next to people's usernames
omoikane 2 hours ago [-]
Related, there is already an extension that allows selected users to be highlighted, but without the shared server data for computing friend-of-a-friend relationships:
It'd be interesting to run pagerank over the trust graph
titaniumtown 2 hours ago [-]
Installed! Lets see how this goes. I'm going through previous interactions I've had with people.
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jonathanstrange 32 minutes ago [-]
That's weird, I'm reading HN every day and never felt a need for something like that. In my experience, the quality of comments is very high and really bad ones tend to be downvoted or flagged fast. Could this be a time zone issue such that people in certain time zones are less fortunate than others?
alt187 27 minutes ago [-]
"Less fortunate" is a generous wording and framing.
goodpoint 31 minutes ago [-]
what about privacy?
Retr0id 30 minutes ago [-]
It would appear that friend/foe lists are entirely public (the latter feels a bit rude)
SV_BubbleTime 2 hours ago [-]
I would suggest categorizing the quality of comments by its content and not its creator. Oh, nevermind, that’s a silly thought.
Challenge my core belief? Well… I could rationally evaluate that, or, I could just use a tool to block it from my vision! Bubble thickener.
netsharc 1 hours ago [-]
There are some trolls in here that seemingly evade getting banned despite their moronic comments...
Also, many comments just take a wrong premise and attack you (e.g. that not wanting the slaughter of innocent people equals supporting terrorists who want to slaughter innocent people). They don't offer anything more than that, so that IMO taking the time to consider their mostly one-note opinion is just wasting said time.
tomhow 58 minutes ago [-]
> There are some trolls in here that seemingly evade getting banned despite their moronic comments...
As moderators we can only judge comments according to the guidelines, and can only ban accounts if they repeatedly breach them. You're always welcome to email us (hn@ycombinator.com) about an account that has been continually breaching the guidelines.
ddtaylor 22 minutes ago [-]
I have emailed HN before when I spot really terrible things and they have been quick to effect change.
kmeisthax 11 minutes ago [-]
There are enough bad-faith commenters on HN that I personally would find this very useful.
ImPostingOnHN 1 hours ago [-]
this seems like it would increase tribalism and polarization
subdavis 30 minutes ago [-]
Indeed. Why engage with ideas on the merits when you can color (literally) your own opinion of them before even reading.
I guess if you just prefer wearing horse blinders?
elcapitan 40 minutes ago [-]
Finally someone brings this place the explicit toxicity it had been missing all those years. /s
slopinthebag 1 hours ago [-]
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How old is that icon set? I swear I used that same peppers icon for a Windows app that I published around 2002.
Version two: hide foes? Come to think of it, maybe the 'foe' aspect is the fun part...
EDIT: it's like I summoned him.
Original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46993774
https://rickyromero.com/shutup/
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17717598
Challenge my core belief? Well… I could rationally evaluate that, or, I could just use a tool to block it from my vision! Bubble thickener.
Also, many comments just take a wrong premise and attack you (e.g. that not wanting the slaughter of innocent people equals supporting terrorists who want to slaughter innocent people). They don't offer anything more than that, so that IMO taking the time to consider their mostly one-note opinion is just wasting said time.
As moderators we can only judge comments according to the guidelines, and can only ban accounts if they repeatedly breach them. You're always welcome to email us (hn@ycombinator.com) about an account that has been continually breaching the guidelines.
I guess if you just prefer wearing horse blinders?