Am I crazy for thinking this is possibly a US cyber attack on the infrastructure to justify Trump's coming actions?
3eb7988a1663 23 hours ago [-]
Uhh yes? The country has been blockaded from receiving fuel. While there could be a more clever attack, the overt one is enough to do all of the damage.
SR2Z 23 hours ago [-]
The country has categorically not been blockaded. A blockade is an act of war where a country prevents all trade regardless of origin.
Cuba has been embargoed which prevents US owned businesses, as well as any businesses which operate in the US, from trading with it. An embargo is not an act of war, it's a way for market economies to apply economic pressure using their soft power. It's not enforced by the military away from the territory of the country placing the embargo and is instead enforced domestically using the police.
Large oil-producing countries that traded with Cuba include Venezuela, Russia (the USSR before 1990), China, and Iran. Market democracies are all pretty OK with the embargo, because trade with a country that doesn't recognize property rights is inherently fraught.
schumpeter 23 hours ago [-]
Technically the US did blockade Cuba from receiving oil, specifically from Venezuela. Blocking tankers, boarding them, and even confiscating them.
The embargo continues, as it has for decades, but the oil blockade is a real thing.
SR2Z 16 hours ago [-]
You make that sound like the US has been stopping Venezuelan tankers for decades.
It hasn't, that's a Trump special. Cuba's energy insecurity goes back a lot longer.
AlotOfReading 21 hours ago [-]
Of those countries, only China remains relatively unencumbered and they've limited exports for internal reasons. There were also a few other source countries like Mexico, Brazil, and Algeria. Algeria stopped years ago because of internal issues. Mexico and Brazil stopped after pressure from the US. That leaves Cuba's domestic production, which is limited to begin with and can't be refined in any sufficient quantity.
Use whatever word you want to use to describe the situation, but the practical result strongly resembles a blockade.
SR2Z 15 hours ago [-]
> Of those countries, only China remains relatively unencumbered and they've limited exports for internal reasons.
Yeah, only China remains unencumbered because only China didn't collapse under the weight of an absurd ideology and crushingly oppressive government. Thanks to Xi's heavyhanded interventions and reassertion of state control, they're trending the wrong way.
The USSR couldn't compete with the free world and collapsed. Venezuela had been shedding refugees for decades before Trump abducted the pro-Havana regime. Iran murdered 30,000 protestors in the streets before the US started bombing it. No matter how you slice it, Cuba had decades of steady imports from friendly nations and yet has remained poor and underdeveloped because of its economic model. No amount of trained doctors or public healthcare can compete with the fact that, until recently, it was illegal to start a business on the island.
If we rewind to 2015 before Trump ever took office, none of these were different. All of those countries were flimsy states and unreliable trading partners, and Cuba routinely dealt with famines and shortages. American pressure doesn't help, but even if the US hadn't embargoed Cuba when the revolution happened it would still have been forced to embargo it afterwards when the Cuban government started launching into its anti-US foreign interventions (there's a fascinating Wikipedia rabbit hole there, if you're bored).
I will use words to describe the situation that actually describe the situation. Cuba sucks at trade because it has been continuously alienating its largest neighbor and blocking domestic industry from forming since the revolution.
Mind you, the US even supported the Cuban Revolution against Batista (despite supporting him for decades). That lasted until the revolutionary government started seizing American holdings and executing landlords.
The history of the two countries is complicated and it does both of them a disservice to pretend like this is a black-and-white "evil imperialist US embargoes a fledgling, innocent socialist Republic."
AlotOfReading 8 hours ago [-]
I'm not sure where in my comment you read any positive statements about Cuba, but I assure you they're not present. I'm only saying that the situation created by the US this year is little different in practice from the effects of actions you would call a blockade.
dzonga 22 hours ago [-]
Cuba should've learned from China.
Communism with Cuban characteristics.
Then got energy independent-- by importing a lot of solar panels, wind turbines from China.
then they wouldn't be suffering an energy embargo from the US.
for the few cases they need hydrocarbons import from Russia.
thiagoharry 10 hours ago [-]
You are forgetting the criminal economic and trade embargo against Cuba. With what money would they buy these Chinese solar panels? How exactly would they obtain the dollars? What economic activity do you propose for them to industrialize and become internationally competitive, given that they are an island with very few natural resources and, thanks to the embargo, have to pay much more for any resource compared to any other country?
dzonga 7 hours ago [-]
I'm not - clearly going against a superpower hell bent on destroying you and making you a colony hasn't exactly worked for them. I'm just pointing reality as it is - you can't force the US to change - it will remain imperialist.
economic activity - export labor to China, Africa they've already been doing that already.
they still receive money from other countries not just the US.
I have lived under a US sanctioned country - blaming the US doesn't help - most of the fault lies in administration of said country - the effects of sanctions is less than say the effect of an incompetent administration
xp84 18 hours ago [-]
China first got a lot of money by exporting billions (trillions?) of dollars of stuff to the whole world with their huge labor force (and presumably a lot of raw materials either homemade or imported). Cuba doesn’t have that ability.
An alternative plan: Cuba could also, at any point, have given up on Communism and rejoin the rest of the world. Even China sold out a lot of its communist ideals if we’re being honest, which helped the West feel pretty okay doing business with them.
skeledrew 12 hours ago [-]
> Cuba could also, at any point, have given up on Communism
Why should they? If it wasn't for the decades of sabotage it would've been working for them reasonably. Should they succumb to the bullying from another country that hates their ideals?
poulpy123 16 hours ago [-]
And Cuba is a small island next to the US, not a massive juggernaut on the other side of the world
greenavocado 9 hours ago [-]
Cuba is resisting a take over from American oligarchs and a repressive police state engineered to maximize wealth transfer to said oligarchs after they take power. Read the introduction to this guy for a taste of what's to come. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista
JohnnyLarue 21 hours ago [-]
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burnt-resistor 8 hours ago [-]
Just like overthrowing Iran's, Mosaddegh because Cuba's, Maduro, et. al. litany of past and current regimes globally aren't slavishly servile, Cuba's, Iran's, Venezula's, and many other peoples suffer because an imperial superpower is denied extraction of money, resources, and compliance from a government, its land, and its people.
Cuba Plunged Into a Nationwide Blackout Trump demands taking it or overthrowing regime; testimonials from a local and a visitor (video, English) begins at 35:56
"Communism can never work," says leader of country that routinely sabotages or outright overthrows communist governments.
sQL_inject 22 hours ago [-]
"The main responsibility of every Soviet citizen was to facilitate the arrival of Communism, where people would contribute to society according to their abilities, and receive from society according to their needs -- has there ever been a nobler sounding goal? And yet historians cannot agree on an estimate of many millions of people were starved to death, tortured to death, or worked to death, all in the name of that goal."
PickledHotdog 21 hours ago [-]
And yet millions of people starve, are tortured and are worked to death in the name of Capitalism. How many die or are made destitute due to lack of affordable healthcare in the US alone?
Not to mention the trillions of dollars (and lives) given up in the pursuit of halting what we're told is a fragile, prone-to-collapse form of government for a hundred years now.
Strange that.
robocat 2 hours ago [-]
> How many die or are made destitute due to lack of affordable healthcare
Healthcare costs are unlimited, and healthcare doesn't solve death.
An equivalent non-partisan question would be "how many people die from lack of exercise"?
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sQL_inject 20 hours ago [-]
I'm not sure where or by whom you you were told it's a fragile, prone-to-collapse form of government, but I wasn't. Communism has a stranglehold on the societies it spawns within because the elite keep it that way.
Show me a country that espouses true Communist principles and I'll show you ten successful Capitalist ones. Don't confuse corporatism with capitalism, the latter which is the free exchange of ideas and goods mutually beneficial to both parties in an open market.
The US's enemies keep Cuba on life support for one reason.
Work a day in the gulag for your pithy apple ration and you'll be begging to sit in an air conditioned office and choose from ten apple varieties at different prices at your local Corporate Grocer.
mindslight 4 hours ago [-]
> I'll show you ten successful Capitalist ones
Could you please list these ten countries even if I cannot show you a country that espouses true Communist principles?
Please do keep in mind though:
> Don't confuse corporatism with capitalism, the latter which is the free exchange of ideas and goods mutually beneficial to both parties in an open market.
Directly stated: the problem I see is that term Capitalism is basically used as a Motte and Bailey. It seems to be the least worst option, and it certainly has benefited us greatly. But that doesn't mean it should escape criticism - especially as it lists further and further into what you're calling "corporatism"
rayiner 23 hours ago [-]
How is the U.S. "sabotaging" Cuba? The U.S. simply prevents capitalistic American companies from doing business with Cuba.
Regardless, the fact that communism doesn't work was proven decades ago by China's shift to authoritarian state-managed capitalism. Singapore, South Korea, and, ironically, Vietnam are other examples that show that model works really well at pulling third-world countries out of poverty.
skeledrew 12 hours ago [-]
> How is the U.S. "sabotaging" Cuba?
Is this for real? There has been a blockade on Cuba for decades. Any country that wants to do business with them is threatened, implicitly or explicitly. Look at how Venezuela, their primary supplier of oil, was recently invaded and taken over, and the shipments stopped.
You're pointing to the blockade of Venezuelan oil which just started. How does that explain the failure of Cuba to develop for the six decades before that?
> companies that do business with the U.S. which trade in Cuba do so at the risk of U.S. sanctions. The U.S. has threatened to stop financial aid to other countries if they trade non-food items with Cuba.
> The U.S. government has pursued extraterritorial measures to enforce its embargo. Cuban ambassador Ricardo Alarcón cited 27 recent cases of trade contracts interrupted by U.S. pressure to the U.N. in 1991. British Petroleum was seemingly dissuaded by U.S. authorities from investing in offshore oil exploration in Cuba despite initially expressing interest. In 1992, the U.S. State Department discouraged firms like Royal Dutch Shell and Clyde Petroleum from investing in Cuba.
cherry_tree 7 hours ago [-]
From “how is the us sabotaging Cuba?” To “but that just started” in one message. Fantastic stuff, hope you didn’t pay much for that law degree.
oa335 7 hours ago [-]
“It is the trade of lawyers to question everything, yield nothing, and talk by the hour”
Thomas Jefferson
rayiner 7 hours ago [-]
In law school, we learn that context is important! OP said: “‘Communism can never work,’ says leader of country that routinely sabotages or outright overthrows communist governments.”
It’s not like Cuba was working great until February 2026.
cherry_tree 4 hours ago [-]
The context being that you _knew_ the US is sabotaging Cuba right now, but still acted as if it was an outlandish assertion. It shows you are presenting arguments in bad faith.
MattDamonSpace 20 hours ago [-]
Could you imagine Cuba with the per capita GDP of Florida?
Geopolitical and sovereignty awkwardness aside (big aside I know)…. it’s obvious Cuba, and especially the average Cuban, would benefit immensely from the island becoming a US state, no?
xp84 18 hours ago [-]
In an alternate universe, instead of the Castro 1959 takeover, a pro-US faction took over and requested annexation, and was accepted, since 1950s Americans all would have thought it was cool to have another cool tropical island paradise state. The Hawaii of the east coast!
If anyone thinks Cuba is better off in any metric now than they would have been in that alternate reality, I’d love to hear why.
disgruntledphd2 11 hours ago [-]
> If anyone thinks Cuba is better off in any metric now than they would have been in that alternate reality, I’d love to hear why.
I mean, pre-Castro Cuba was basically a playground for the US rich. Like, the whole revolution was about kicking those people out.
Personally, I think that's morally justified, but I don't agree that what the US has done to them since then is morally justified. Obviously people differ on their opinions of this stuff, but collective punishment (which is what the US embargoes are) is generally regarded as a war crime.
rayiner 9 hours ago [-]
> Obviously people differ on their opinions of this stuff, but collective punishment (which is what the US embargoes are) is generally regarded as a war crime
The definitions really keep mutating on the left don’t they. Economic sanctions are a “war crime,” “silence is violence,” etc.
cherry_tree 8 hours ago [-]
> 2019, the Assembly of States Parties to the Rome Statute adopted an amendment to the definition of war crimes applicable in NIAC detailed in article 8(2)(e). The new article (8(2)(e)(xix) prohibits the intentional use of starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including the deliberate prevention of relief.
Fuel for cooking food and providing heat is necessary for survival; deliberate prevention of this aid from reaching Cuba is a war crime.
Recently, the U.S. decided that Cuba can no longer import any oil, and they are enforcing that. Is this a surprise that the grid collapses in those circumstances ?
Communism is bad (I'm from Eastern Europe...), but this collapse has nothing to do with communism. It has everything to do, with the U.S. deciding unilaterally that Cuba needs to fall.
g8oz 17 hours ago [-]
The lawless bully nation known as the United States is strangling Cuba. They manufactured this crisis by threatening sanctions on anyone who sends oil to the country. An act of outrageous imperial aggression.
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DivingForGold 23 hours ago [-]
Cubans have horses and depend on then a lot. Why not have horses or oxen running around in a circle or the method in this video for powering a generator or alternator ?
Maybe in a pinch, doesn't seem very sustainable. A single decent 400 watt solar panel produces about the same continuous power as a horse, and doesn't consume 20 lbs of hay per day, or pee on your generator.
schumpeter 23 hours ago [-]
Having family in Cuba, I guess this could work, but it doesn’t scale, because someone will inevitably steal your horses for dinner, when you aren’t looking.
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Cuba has been embargoed which prevents US owned businesses, as well as any businesses which operate in the US, from trading with it. An embargo is not an act of war, it's a way for market economies to apply economic pressure using their soft power. It's not enforced by the military away from the territory of the country placing the embargo and is instead enforced domestically using the police.
Large oil-producing countries that traded with Cuba include Venezuela, Russia (the USSR before 1990), China, and Iran. Market democracies are all pretty OK with the embargo, because trade with a country that doesn't recognize property rights is inherently fraught.
The embargo continues, as it has for decades, but the oil blockade is a real thing.
It hasn't, that's a Trump special. Cuba's energy insecurity goes back a lot longer.
Use whatever word you want to use to describe the situation, but the practical result strongly resembles a blockade.
Yeah, only China remains unencumbered because only China didn't collapse under the weight of an absurd ideology and crushingly oppressive government. Thanks to Xi's heavyhanded interventions and reassertion of state control, they're trending the wrong way.
The USSR couldn't compete with the free world and collapsed. Venezuela had been shedding refugees for decades before Trump abducted the pro-Havana regime. Iran murdered 30,000 protestors in the streets before the US started bombing it. No matter how you slice it, Cuba had decades of steady imports from friendly nations and yet has remained poor and underdeveloped because of its economic model. No amount of trained doctors or public healthcare can compete with the fact that, until recently, it was illegal to start a business on the island.
If we rewind to 2015 before Trump ever took office, none of these were different. All of those countries were flimsy states and unreliable trading partners, and Cuba routinely dealt with famines and shortages. American pressure doesn't help, but even if the US hadn't embargoed Cuba when the revolution happened it would still have been forced to embargo it afterwards when the Cuban government started launching into its anti-US foreign interventions (there's a fascinating Wikipedia rabbit hole there, if you're bored).
I will use words to describe the situation that actually describe the situation. Cuba sucks at trade because it has been continuously alienating its largest neighbor and blocking domestic industry from forming since the revolution.
Mind you, the US even supported the Cuban Revolution against Batista (despite supporting him for decades). That lasted until the revolutionary government started seizing American holdings and executing landlords.
The history of the two countries is complicated and it does both of them a disservice to pretend like this is a black-and-white "evil imperialist US embargoes a fledgling, innocent socialist Republic."
Communism with Cuban characteristics.
Then got energy independent-- by importing a lot of solar panels, wind turbines from China.
then they wouldn't be suffering an energy embargo from the US.
for the few cases they need hydrocarbons import from Russia.
economic activity - export labor to China, Africa they've already been doing that already.
they still receive money from other countries not just the US.
I have lived under a US sanctioned country - blaming the US doesn't help - most of the fault lies in administration of said country - the effects of sanctions is less than say the effect of an incompetent administration
An alternative plan: Cuba could also, at any point, have given up on Communism and rejoin the rest of the world. Even China sold out a lot of its communist ideals if we’re being honest, which helped the West feel pretty okay doing business with them.
Why should they? If it wasn't for the decades of sabotage it would've been working for them reasonably. Should they succumb to the bullying from another country that hates their ideals?
Cuba Plunged Into a Nationwide Blackout Trump demands taking it or overthrowing regime; testimonials from a local and a visitor (video, English) begins at 35:56
https://democracynow.cachefly.net/democracynow/360/dn2026-03... (SD, mp4)
https://ewheel.democracynow.org/dn2026-0317.mp4.torrent (HD, torrent of mp4) *
https://archive.org/details/dn2026-0317_vid *
* Available several hours from time of writing
Protesters Reportedly Attack Communist Party Office in Cuba as Energy Crisis Deepens (yesterday)
https://www.democracynow.org/2026/3/16/headlines/protesters_...
Not to mention the trillions of dollars (and lives) given up in the pursuit of halting what we're told is a fragile, prone-to-collapse form of government for a hundred years now.
Strange that.
Healthcare costs are unlimited, and healthcare doesn't solve death.
An equivalent non-partisan question would be "how many people die from lack of exercise"?
Show me a country that espouses true Communist principles and I'll show you ten successful Capitalist ones. Don't confuse corporatism with capitalism, the latter which is the free exchange of ideas and goods mutually beneficial to both parties in an open market.
The US's enemies keep Cuba on life support for one reason.
Work a day in the gulag for your pithy apple ration and you'll be begging to sit in an air conditioned office and choose from ten apple varieties at different prices at your local Corporate Grocer.
Could you please list these ten countries even if I cannot show you a country that espouses true Communist principles?
Please do keep in mind though:
> Don't confuse corporatism with capitalism, the latter which is the free exchange of ideas and goods mutually beneficial to both parties in an open market.
Directly stated: the problem I see is that term Capitalism is basically used as a Motte and Bailey. It seems to be the least worst option, and it certainly has benefited us greatly. But that doesn't mean it should escape criticism - especially as it lists further and further into what you're calling "corporatism"
Regardless, the fact that communism doesn't work was proven decades ago by China's shift to authoritarian state-managed capitalism. Singapore, South Korea, and, ironically, Vietnam are other examples that show that model works really well at pulling third-world countries out of poverty.
Is this for real? There has been a blockade on Cuba for decades. Any country that wants to do business with them is threatened, implicitly or explicitly. Look at how Venezuela, their primary supplier of oil, was recently invaded and taken over, and the shipments stopped.
It is not just American companies. It is a blockade: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Cuban_crisis
> companies that do business with the U.S. which trade in Cuba do so at the risk of U.S. sanctions. The U.S. has threatened to stop financial aid to other countries if they trade non-food items with Cuba.
> The U.S. government has pursued extraterritorial measures to enforce its embargo. Cuban ambassador Ricardo Alarcón cited 27 recent cases of trade contracts interrupted by U.S. pressure to the U.N. in 1991. British Petroleum was seemingly dissuaded by U.S. authorities from investing in offshore oil exploration in Cuba despite initially expressing interest. In 1992, the U.S. State Department discouraged firms like Royal Dutch Shell and Clyde Petroleum from investing in Cuba.
Thomas Jefferson
It’s not like Cuba was working great until February 2026.
Geopolitical and sovereignty awkwardness aside (big aside I know)…. it’s obvious Cuba, and especially the average Cuban, would benefit immensely from the island becoming a US state, no?
If anyone thinks Cuba is better off in any metric now than they would have been in that alternate reality, I’d love to hear why.
I mean, pre-Castro Cuba was basically a playground for the US rich. Like, the whole revolution was about kicking those people out.
Personally, I think that's morally justified, but I don't agree that what the US has done to them since then is morally justified. Obviously people differ on their opinions of this stuff, but collective punishment (which is what the US embargoes are) is generally regarded as a war crime.
The definitions really keep mutating on the left don’t they. Economic sanctions are a “war crime,” “silence is violence,” etc.
Fuel for cooking food and providing heat is necessary for survival; deliberate prevention of this aid from reaching Cuba is a war crime.
Read this first: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_...
Recently, the U.S. decided that Cuba can no longer import any oil, and they are enforcing that. Is this a surprise that the grid collapses in those circumstances ?
Communism is bad (I'm from Eastern Europe...), but this collapse has nothing to do with communism. It has everything to do, with the U.S. deciding unilaterally that Cuba needs to fall.
https://youtu.be/dpq3tXz0QoI?t=217