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Florida surgeon charged with killing man after removing liver instead of spleen (arstechnica.com)
bmitc 7 hours ago [-]
I just don't know even what to say to this. That is absolutely devastating for the family. This story is absolutely insane. This sounds like something you'd read about in a third-world country in the 19th century.

The fact that he just kept doubling down and then even tried to cover it up is chilling. What is his deal? He just wants to play doctor? Does he get heavily paid for surgeries?

I see this on an 4 year old review:

> I truly believe, and have been told, it sounds like the outpatient surgery benefits him more monetarily than doing it during my 8 day hospital stay.

Perhaps this guy is just in it for the money and totally out of his league.

It makes you wonder why checks and balances failed to allow this guy to practice medicine and who wasn't speaking up or being listened to. It's pretty scary if there are doctor's like this out there.

AnthonBerg 3 hours ago [-]
To examine why, a thought experiement:

Scenes: The doctor in his office, The consultation. The surgery.

We have a carousel of sound tracks. What kind of movie soundtrack fits best?

What's the difference between cutting out someone's liver in a garage or shed or car vs. doing it in an operating room?

ButlerianJihad 3 hours ago [-]
In 2020, a mere 2 months before all the lockdowns, I was being wheeled in for an inguinal hernia repair. I was deeply engaged in chit-chat with the nurses and surgeon, and I had been listening to "Weird Al" Yankovic a lot, because he had released a song and video called "Living with a Hernia".

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=X8Ow1nlafOg&si=R3m4K3kDQiC...

I asked them if they were familiar with "Weird Al" and they said no, so I began singing a few bars of "Like a Surgeon" and they were mildly amused. That continued right up until they put the anaesthesia mask on my face.

The surgery was a great success!

lIl-IIIl 3 hours ago [-]
>This sounds like something you'd read about in a third-world country in the 19th century.

Not even then. Neither third world country doctors nor 19th century physicians would confuse the liver for the spleen.

paradox460 3 hours ago [-]
The ancient Greeks knew the difference. They may not have known what the spleen itself did, but they knew it wasn't the liver
random3 6 hours ago [-]
It’s unfortunately the case in 21st century in unexpected places with systemic issues and it can get worse — e.g. repeated surgeries under influence, etc.
kstenerud 5 hours ago [-]
This is, unfortunately, how narcissists behave. It's simply impossible for a narcissist to be wrong. They truly believe themselves to be right, all the time, and will even distort reality around them to "make" it true. And they do it all unconsciously.
cromka 3 hours ago [-]
This is probably more of a sociopath case than a narcissist. Narcissism does not equal lack of compassion.
asdfasgasdgasdg 6 hours ago [-]
I have to assume some kind of dementia or mental instability on the part of the surgeon. Nobody in his right mind would behave this way.
bmitc 6 hours ago [-]
I've seen suspicion and wondered myself if the guy is even who he says he is. He might not even be an actual surgeon. Apparently, he's killed at least two other people in similar cases.

As if this guy being a surgeon isn't scary enough, what's more scary is that the system allowed him to be practicing, allowed this surgery to happen (he was an hour late and the assigned staff had went home).

I almost wouldn't be surprised if he's an imposter, under the influence, and has some mental generation or instability _all at once_. That's about the only thing that would explain this. But it still doesn't explain away the systemic issues.

burnt-resistor 4 hours ago [-]
My paternal grandmother had an involuntary radical hysterectomy with an emergency appendectomy either because of classist eugenics against enlisted military wives post-WWII or, as she said, the Navy surgeon was drunk. Nothing ever happened to said surgeon.
lifestyleguru 3 hours ago [-]
> involuntary radical hysterectomy

If this makes your grandmother feel any better this happens also nowadays, in Europe, in a country with public healthcare, with sober surgeon [1]. Some surgeons are simply psychopaths and the first time you meet them is unconscious on operating table.

https://www-rmf24-pl.translate.goog/regiony/poznan/news-obud...

7 hours ago [-]
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