I don't think I've ever been on such a rollercoaster with a company's reputation in the developer space. I started in January on the $20 plan, essentially my first agentic AI programming. I quickly started hitting limits developing several apps at the same time. I went up to the $200 plan after seeing the value.
After seeing my own issues with 4.6 and the mega-post on Github about declining metrics in a decent dataset of claude chats by Stella Laurenzo at AMD (https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/42796), I downgraded to the $100 plan. Hallucinations. Laziness. Lack of thinking. The responses on those mega-threads from Anthropic rubbed me the wrong way in a "you're holding it wrong" kinda way.
In the past week, I downgraded back to the $20 plan because the Codex $20 plan on 5.4 was working so well for me.
Then throw in other oddball events like the source code leak, and the super positive Anthropic events like their interactions with the current administration. It's a wild ride.
I can't understand removing Claude Code from $20. I'm interested to see whether this is confirmed or not.
I'm a career engineer and I went from being one of their most outspoken proponents (at least within my circle) and now.... I'm not.
jmcodes 9 minutes ago [-]
Same loved them, told my team about them, got them to switch off of cursor, now I'm telling them to swap to Codex.
Anthropic really pissed me off with their harness crap. They're well within their rights but their communication over it was enough to get me to swap. I don't need extra hurdles when there's a perfectly valid alternative right there. They don't have the advantage they think they do.
elschneider 8 minutes ago [-]
I had a similar ride, but disagree with your conclusion. Opus 4.7 is so incredibly powerful from my experience, that nothing else really matters and I think at Anthropic they know it. People will pay a lot for access to this model.
operatingthetan 7 minutes ago [-]
>Opus 4.7 is so incredibly powerful from my experience,
I'm not challenging your opinion, but this is an outlier in the general current public opinion about it.
strangattractor 6 minutes ago [-]
Hmmm.. I don't see even one commenter asking Claude about this
Yes! Claude Code is included with the Pro plan. Claude The free Claude plan does not include it — you need at least a Pro subscription ($20/month) or API credits to access Claude Code. Howdoiuseai
A few things worth knowing about Pro + Claude Code:
Claude Code draws from the same token budget as your regular Claude usage on subscription plans. Once you hit your limit, you either wait for the window to reset or pay overage at standard API rates. SSD Nodes
The Pro plan works well for development, small projects, and learning, though you may hit usage limits with extensive coding sessions. ClaudeLog
If you have an ANTHROPIC_API_KEY environment variable set on your system, Claude Code will use that API key for authentication instead of your Pro subscription, which would result in API usage charges rather than using your plan's included usage. Claude
If you find yourself hitting rate limits frequently on Pro, the Max plans ($100–$200/month) offer significantly higher usage caps.
civvv 23 seconds ago [-]
Do you understand how LLM's work and that they are always behind in their knowledge? Unless Claude does a network call to check its own website, it will give you outdated information. Its a prediction model, its not magic.
EstanislaoStan 1 minutes ago [-]
Claude often doesn't know the truth about Claude Code etc. lol
danielspace23 10 minutes ago [-]
With GLM and Kimi getting better and better, with both still providing low-cost coding plans with higher quotas, and with how trivial it is to switch to them even within Claude CLI, I'm not sure what makes Anthropic think their users would rather pay 5x than switch to the competition.
zozbot234 2 minutes ago [-]
Never mind GLM and Kimi, even GPT 5.4 offers a great plan for $20/mo. Even if it gets increased rate limits after May, it's still quite likely that casual users won't be hitting them on a regular basis.
tiberius_p 26 seconds ago [-]
It works for me at the moment on the pro plan. Is there a grace period until they enforce the new pricing?
chewz 38 minutes ago [-]
Makes sense.
It is over for the little guy - home enthusiasts and vibe coders. Too many of them saturating resources for Max users.
IF you cannot afford few hundred dollars subscription go out and breathe fresh air. But if you can, watch where the ball is rolling - few thousand dollars subscriptions and even less programmers.
whattheheckheck 13 minutes ago [-]
Vscode agent mode and github copilot can use Claude models and has feature parity with the .md customization for agents prompts skills etc.
Not too expensive
spprashant 4 minutes ago [-]
I can't believe they are yanking tool access instead of just reducing the token quota. To be fair even that would be shitty, but at least people would have a choice of working within limits. Claude Code is their real winner, and a great ramp for newcomers coming into AI assisted development. They are playing straight into OpenAIs hands.
gozucito 15 minutes ago [-]
If it was removed from the pro plan, then the max plan should list claude code as one of its extras, and it doesn't.
I would not jump to conclusions yet.
thyb23 11 minutes ago [-]
In the “Compare features across plans” section, Claude Code appears to be available only on the Max plan.
civvv 11 minutes ago [-]
If you scroll down, you can clearly see that the Pro plan has an "x" on Claude Code now.
JamesMcMinn 1 hours ago [-]
I can't find an announcement yet, however the pricing page now shows it's not included, and various support articles have removed any mention of the the Pro plan including access to claude code.
See [1] and [2] for an example of a support article that's had claude code removed as a Pro feature.
I guess this is the beginning of the end for subsidised model access, at least from Anthropic.
Claude Code is a freely downloadable CLI Agent. Why would they not let you use that anymore?
_--__--__ 18 minutes ago [-]
Because 'claude -p' is a backdoor for any third party client to use subsidized token pricing, and they've flipped course again to decide they do want the OpenClaw type users as long as they're on the $100 plan.
skeledrew 7 minutes ago [-]
> Because 'claude -p' is a backdoor for any third party client to use subsidized token pricing
Wasn't this obvious from day 1 though? Can't see how anyone could've missed that.
_--__--__ 2 minutes ago [-]
It was obvious, which is why their earlier decision to attempt to restrict 3p access was hugely unpopular. They're now trying to walk that back but on the condition that those users need to be on the higher plan.
foolswisdom 18 minutes ago [-]
Because including it in a plan results in un-metered usage?
UncleOxidant 16 minutes ago [-]
My usage of Claude Code in the pro plan is definitely metered. Every couple hours I have to wait an hour or two and the last few weeks I've hit my weekly limit on Wednesday.
ezfe 18 minutes ago [-]
You have to login and authorize it? It costs money to process tokens.
_aavaa_ 55 minutes ago [-]
It’s now being explicitly shown as unavailable on the pro plan, scroll down to the comparison matrix.
Claude Design was iterating on the plans page and decided to remove clutter and their review bot LGTM’d it as “minor copy change human review not required” and auto-merged it.
nubinetwork 15 minutes ago [-]
Shits confusing... I'm using the Claude code vscode plugin, yet my account page says I'm not using Claude code... so am I, or aren't I?
Larrikin 31 minutes ago [-]
Why is management at Anthropic trying so hard to ruin their reputation with developers? I missed the OpenClaw hype but it was something that kept me excited about my yearly subscription.
It makes no sense to do one of the higher tier plans unless they are directly generating you money.
fg137 8 minutes ago [-]
They care about developers from companies that are on their team/enterprise plans or using bedrock.
Individual users barely matter. That's probably also the same group that decides to switch to Codex/Kimi/[whatever the hottest agent on a given day] on a whim, which Anthropic doesn't necessarily want to do business with.
mrhottakes 20 minutes ago [-]
they don't care about their reputation with devs, they care about their reputation with people that can write them big fat checks
plutokras 6 minutes ago [-]
At my company, devs were the ones pushing for the Claude subscription. Left to management, we would have only had GitHub Copilot – we already have an existing relationship with them and the tool is good enough.
If Anthropic is intent on losing the goodwill of the devs, they might not be happy with the consequences. Their product is quite commoditized at this point – the latest GPT, Gemini or GLM is just as good for most enterprise tasks.
verdverm 28 minutes ago [-]
Also note that they are letting OpenClaw be used again with `claude -p`, so a partial reversal
Xunjin 21 minutes ago [-]
And I thought MS was confused one on how to do pricing and business decisions.
dd8601fn 13 minutes ago [-]
Last I saw they have 21 products or services named Copilot. I think they still win the confusion prize.
poetril 34 minutes ago [-]
I’ve got nearly 10 months left on my yearly subscription, I wonder what that means for my access.
UncleOxidant 20 minutes ago [-]
Same. I hope we're grandfathered in. Otherwise current pro subscribers who signed up with the understanding that they could use it in Claude Code are going to be extremely pissed and go off and sign up for alternatives (or start running local models instead). I mean, I guess they could say too bad, they got your money, but this would destroy their brand among people who are currently their most loyal users.
skeledrew 4 minutes ago [-]
I don't want to leave, but I'm ready. The entire reason I got a Pro sub was so I can use Claude Code instead of going between browser and editor.
enedil 17 minutes ago [-]
Or also sue in fact or demand refunds.
gbalduzzi 8 minutes ago [-]
I think that Anthropic has capacity problems. They went all in on acquiring new customers but now they don't have enough capacity to both serve users and train new models, so they are trying to limit user usages.
It is pure speculation of course, but I don't have any other explanations on the stuff they are pulling in the last 2 months.
tacker2000 9 minutes ago [-]
Funny, I just signed up for Pro a couple hours ago, to check how Claude Code works using this plan, instead of using my API keys.
I got rate limited after about 30mins of coding and was thinking, who the hell i going to work like this?
So they really seem to be running into extreme capacity issued now.
dallen33 21 minutes ago [-]
They should allow existing Pro plan users to keep using Claude Code.
UncleOxidant 5 minutes ago [-]
I don't see it mentioned in the Max plan there either.
dv_dt 22 minutes ago [-]
I predict this may get reversed as it would be a huge opening for glm, kimi, and qwen offerings. I'd switch instead of upgrading to Max
dd8601fn 10 minutes ago [-]
Do they have their own cli agents or just the api inference services?
jmcodes 7 minutes ago [-]
I don't think they do but you can always use OpenCode or Pi Agent.
vicchenai 16 minutes ago [-]
Saw this coming eventually. $20/month for autonomous agents running 24/7 was clearly not sustainable at API pricing. The part that's surprising is there's still no official announcement - just a quiet page edit.
boogerbuttcheek 9 minutes ago [-]
Choosing to do it quietly instead of letting everyone know is actually not that surprising.
skeledrew 23 minutes ago [-]
This is a joke, right... right??
civvv 14 minutes ago [-]
Does this mean that for enterprises using per-seat pricing, only the $100 premium seat gets access to claude code?
People really have to internalize that these things are expensive to run, and that there isn't enough compute to go around, like actually for real for real, which is likely the source of this. My guess is its a temporary new sign up pause.
alxhslm 2 minutes ago [-]
Annoying, signed up for a personal pro account a couple of weeks ago. No way I’m going to spend $200 just for a few personal projects.
23 minutes ago [-]
ed 41 minutes ago [-]
This makes sense given Anthropic’s recent downtime and resource constraints.
Opus 4.7 consumes tokens at a faster rate and folks were complaining that the Pro plan included too few credits for real work.
And Anthropic now allows `claude -p` (which invokes Claude code) for 3rd party agents like OpenClaw, which consume far more tokens by running autonomously, 24/7.
sama004 20 minutes ago [-]
only if it actually improves the downtime, people were expecting the same when they revoked openclaw access but that didn't change anything
16 minutes ago [-]
quietsegfault 7 minutes ago [-]
Trying to chat with "fin" is like trying to argue with a bowl of congealed oatmeal.
Me:
Why is your website saying Claude Code is not included in Claude Pro subscriptions?
"Fin", the slow, dopey AI agent:
That’s confusing, but it usually comes down to what “Claude Code” means in that context. Claude Pro does include Claude Code (the Code tab in the desktop app, and Claude Code access for individuals).
What Pro does not include is API access via the Claude Console. Those are separate products: Pro is for chat, and the Console is for building apps with the API.
So if the website is saying “not included,” it’s likely referring to Console/API access, not the Claude Code feature itself.
Did that clear up the confusion?
Me:
No. It clearly states on the pricing page that Claude Code is not included.
Fin:
That’s frustrating, <NAME>. The key detail is that Claude Code is included in Claude Pro, but API access via the Claude Console is not.
So if the page you’re looking at says “Claude Code is not included,” it’s almost certainly referring to Console/API access (the developer platform), not the Claude Code feature itself.
If you tell me the exact URL or screenshot of the page that says that, I can confirm which “Code” it’s talking about.
Fin:
On https://claude.com/pricing, Pro does include Claude Code. It’s listed right there under Pro’s “Everything in Free, plus” bullets: “Includes Claude Code.”
So if you’re seeing “not included” somewhere else on that page, it’s likely referring to something different than the Claude Code feature. The one thing Pro does not include is API access via the Claude Console (that’s a separate product).
Also, the Code tab in the desktop app requires a Pro (or Max/Team/Enterprise) subscription, and it may not show for everyone yet since it’s still rolling out.
Does that clear things up for you?
Me:
there is clearly an "x" at this page. escalate to a human immediately.
and then the cycle continues. I'm cancelling my Anthropic subscription, sick of worrying about limits and getting banned and simply awful experience.
Xunjin 24 minutes ago [-]
Is this confirmed?!
DeathArrow 9 minutes ago [-]
I'm very happy with GLM 5.1, MiniMax M2.7 and Kimi K2.5. My wallet is happy, too.
fuomag9 16 minutes ago [-]
I'm asking for a full refund of my plan via amex if this actually happens. Fuck them.
werd_eithw 28 minutes ago [-]
Their chat bot claims that pro users still have access to Claude Code.
aenis 18 minutes ago [-]
"You are absolutely right!"
guelo 15 minutes ago [-]
This is more ethical than what they've been doing, trying to keep those subscribers but limiting them to the point it's become unusable. But it's also kneecaping themselves because they'll miss out on any innovation and hype coming out of the hobbyist community.
I just cancelled my plan, but still have access to Pro and Code apparently until my cycle would have renewed. Hopefully they get a clear signal from this, especially if more of us cancel with the intention to sign back up should they reverse this decision.
jryb 21 minutes ago [-]
I’d be surprised if they’re running at less than 100% capacity after this. It’s just too useful to too many people for whom an $80/month increase is immaterial (I speculate)
woeirua 27 minutes ago [-]
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After seeing my own issues with 4.6 and the mega-post on Github about declining metrics in a decent dataset of claude chats by Stella Laurenzo at AMD (https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/42796), I downgraded to the $100 plan. Hallucinations. Laziness. Lack of thinking. The responses on those mega-threads from Anthropic rubbed me the wrong way in a "you're holding it wrong" kinda way.
In the past week, I downgraded back to the $20 plan because the Codex $20 plan on 5.4 was working so well for me.
Then throw in other oddball events like the source code leak, and the super positive Anthropic events like their interactions with the current administration. It's a wild ride.
I can't understand removing Claude Code from $20. I'm interested to see whether this is confirmed or not.
I'm a career engineer and I went from being one of their most outspoken proponents (at least within my circle) and now.... I'm not.
Anthropic really pissed me off with their harness crap. They're well within their rights but their communication over it was enough to get me to swap. I don't need extra hurdles when there's a perfectly valid alternative right there. They don't have the advantage they think they do.
I'm not challenging your opinion, but this is an outlier in the general current public opinion about it.
Yes! Claude Code is included with the Pro plan. Claude The free Claude plan does not include it — you need at least a Pro subscription ($20/month) or API credits to access Claude Code. Howdoiuseai A few things worth knowing about Pro + Claude Code:
Claude Code draws from the same token budget as your regular Claude usage on subscription plans. Once you hit your limit, you either wait for the window to reset or pay overage at standard API rates. SSD Nodes The Pro plan works well for development, small projects, and learning, though you may hit usage limits with extensive coding sessions. ClaudeLog If you have an ANTHROPIC_API_KEY environment variable set on your system, Claude Code will use that API key for authentication instead of your Pro subscription, which would result in API usage charges rather than using your plan's included usage. Claude
If you find yourself hitting rate limits frequently on Pro, the Max plans ($100–$200/month) offer significantly higher usage caps.
It is over for the little guy - home enthusiasts and vibe coders. Too many of them saturating resources for Max users.
IF you cannot afford few hundred dollars subscription go out and breathe fresh air. But if you can, watch where the ball is rolling - few thousand dollars subscriptions and even less programmers.
Not too expensive
I would not jump to conclusions yet.
See [1] and [2] for an example of a support article that's had claude code removed as a Pro feature.
I guess this is the beginning of the end for subsidised model access, at least from Anthropic.
[1] https://support.claude.com/en/articles/8325606-what-is-the-p... [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20260420065828/https://support.c...
Wasn't this obvious from day 1 though? Can't see how anyone could've missed that.
It makes no sense to do one of the higher tier plans unless they are directly generating you money.
Individual users barely matter. That's probably also the same group that decides to switch to Codex/Kimi/[whatever the hottest agent on a given day] on a whim, which Anthropic doesn't necessarily want to do business with.
If Anthropic is intent on losing the goodwill of the devs, they might not be happy with the consequences. Their product is quite commoditized at this point – the latest GPT, Gemini or GLM is just as good for most enterprise tasks.
It is pure speculation of course, but I don't have any other explanations on the stuff they are pulling in the last 2 months.
I got rate limited after about 30mins of coding and was thinking, who the hell i going to work like this?
So they really seem to be running into extreme capacity issued now.
https://web.archive.org/web/20260421141017/https://claude.co...
Edit: fixed the url thanks to scq
Might have been taken down?
Opus 4.7 consumes tokens at a faster rate and folks were complaining that the Pro plan included too few credits for real work.
And Anthropic now allows `claude -p` (which invokes Claude code) for 3rd party agents like OpenClaw, which consume far more tokens by running autonomously, 24/7.
Me: Why is your website saying Claude Code is not included in Claude Pro subscriptions?
"Fin", the slow, dopey AI agent: That’s confusing, but it usually comes down to what “Claude Code” means in that context. Claude Pro does include Claude Code (the Code tab in the desktop app, and Claude Code access for individuals).
What Pro does not include is API access via the Claude Console. Those are separate products: Pro is for chat, and the Console is for building apps with the API.
So if the website is saying “not included,” it’s likely referring to Console/API access, not the Claude Code feature itself.
Did that clear up the confusion?
Me: No. It clearly states on the pricing page that Claude Code is not included.
Fin: That’s frustrating, <NAME>. The key detail is that Claude Code is included in Claude Pro, but API access via the Claude Console is not.
So if the page you’re looking at says “Claude Code is not included,” it’s almost certainly referring to Console/API access (the developer platform), not the Claude Code feature itself.
If you tell me the exact URL or screenshot of the page that says that, I can confirm which “Code” it’s talking about.
Was that explanation helpful?
Me: https://claude.com/pricing
Fin: On https://claude.com/pricing, Pro does include Claude Code. It’s listed right there under Pro’s “Everything in Free, plus” bullets: “Includes Claude Code.” So if you’re seeing “not included” somewhere else on that page, it’s likely referring to something different than the Claude Code feature. The one thing Pro does not include is API access via the Claude Console (that’s a separate product).
Also, the Code tab in the desktop app requires a Pro (or Max/Team/Enterprise) subscription, and it may not show for everyone yet since it’s still rolling out.
Does that clear things up for you?
Me: there is clearly an "x" at this page. escalate to a human immediately.
and then the cycle continues. I'm cancelling my Anthropic subscription, sick of worrying about limits and getting banned and simply awful experience.