I don't want any one particular country, or organization, to "win" AI. I want AI capabilities to remain diffuse and spread out, so that everybody has access to approximately equal levels of AI. If anything, you might say that I want "Open Source to win AI".
oceansky 6 minutes ago [-]
That's the last thing big tech companies want. Maybe Meta being the odd exception with Llama.
rienbdj 5 minutes ago [-]
Meta wants the models to be cheap and available because their strength is the context data and platform control.
jayknight 5 minutes ago [-]
>I want AI capabilities to remain diffuse and spread out...
The most widely used AI systems are controlled by a few billionaires. I'd like to see it become much more spread out.
sph 11 minutes ago [-]
That investment chart is hilarious and terrifying. You Americans better hope this whole AI thing pans out.
happytoexplain 21 minutes ago [-]
He praises a person for careful, nuanced takes, but then links to their writing where the first paragraph contains the sentence, "the human experience of art appreciation is indifferent to the source."
comrade1234 16 minutes ago [-]
I usually don't even know what ai I'm using at any one time. It's just a choice in my IDE between a bunch of different models, and I switch models every now and then when the response time slows down too much (usually when the Americans start waking up). I have no loyalty to any one product.
feverzsj 44 seconds ago [-]
It's like the largest scam in history. No one will win it except some scammers.
quater321 7 minutes ago [-]
Of course! That should not even be a question.
hiddencost 10 minutes ago [-]
The brain rot required to call the EA people evil while praising the guy that did agree to give the Pentagon autonomous weapons...
AntiUSAbah 9 minutes ago [-]
What i find interesting is the other article of geohot regarding AGI.
It seems that its financial possible for a handful of companies to learn everything.
It doesn't matter how we solve 'work':
It can be AGI, it can also be the already existing massive global scale Reinforcement Loop we all feed through using ChatGPT and co, it could be to compute RL or by buying experts teaching this knowledge to some AI system.
Companies also start to put the 'human' part into the agentic layer.
A while back anyone was somehow a benefit even if they did some kind of shitty work. Today i don't think this is true anymore. I would prefer to manage some avg ai than a shitty person.
This will and is already disrupting human lives.
undeveloper 11 minutes ago [-]
i cannot believe people take this idiot seriously still. all he does is jerk off about being the coolest guy ever and then openly suck off yarvin while calling himself a progressive. he was aaaalllllll about the US winning the AI war against "foreign adversaries" (his (paraphrased) words) but suddenly when he divines the guy he voted for (after complaining about the stupid poors "51% attacking" (his (paraphrased) words!))) was a professional economy ratfucker he dips to hong kong and gets a citizenship there its alllllll about china. i remember this motherfucker's elon glaze as a self described "elon voter". how is this motherfucker even fucking relevant? i hope the end of his life is without a penny and with no one to remember him. my life is tangibly worse due to epstein-class weirdos like him.
oulipo2 22 minutes ago [-]
AI society is going to be:
- you, chained on your sofa, watching ads "tailored-made by AI for you"
- weaponized robots roaming the streets to ensure everyone is "at work" and not "at leisure activities"
- "no need to vote", of course, because "AI already knows what's good for you"...
mindcrime 10 minutes ago [-]
> - you, chained on your sofa, watching ads "tailored-made by AI for you"
Nah, the weaponized robots don't need to ensure you're working. They need to ensure you're either watching advertisements or working!
Obviously, if you're a child you can't work, so you need to be advertising fodder.
deadbabe 13 minutes ago [-]
I don’t want the US to win anything ever again. They are a net negative in this world, obsessed with short term profits. Countries like China with long term objectives are better.
rob74 5 minutes ago [-]
As long as the guy who sets the long term objectives is reasonably sane, I guess? Putin attacked Ukraine, Trump (and Bibi) attacked Iran, I'm hoping Xi is smarter and doesn't attack Taiwan, otherwise we can all say good bye to our jobs, and who "wins" AI will be the least important question on our minds...
quater321 5 minutes ago [-]
I hope you are Chinese, otherwise I feel sorry for you as you are really delusional or simply ot smart, to say it nicely.
throw42356 10 minutes ago [-]
America, China and Russia are all same.
AntiUSAbah 6 minutes ago [-]
I don't agree.
China took a very rich business man and told him to stop showing his richness and start doing more for china.
China has a real plan for renewable energy and pushing through it.
China is smarter because it doesn't allow some people to vote for people like Trump and its smarter than russia because it is less motivated by one persons personal agenda.
quater321 4 minutes ago [-]
you don't really need to explain that to someone with common sense. If someone says a communist countrie should be the top of the world, they are obviously part of the communist party or simply re*rded.
chrsw 14 minutes ago [-]
I had an indignant gasp reflex when he called Cursor "random AI bubble crap" and I'm just a user.
AntiUSAbah 20 minutes ago [-]
After showing us that these people are willing to vote for Trump twice?
Having people like Peter Thiel over there who thinks daemons exist?
With Elon Musk having all social security numbers and no one cares about that? Or his blant disruption of democracy?
In china people disappear, true, but at least with China you know what you get. With USA its schizophrenia every 4 years and it wouldnt matter to me if suddenly my air travels are no longer possible due to Trump or i have to pay a lot more due to market disruptions.
comrade1234 13 minutes ago [-]
I assure you, daemons do exist. They've possessed my linux server.
Diti 5 minutes ago [-]
They live in the Dust gathered in your server!
rogermungo 1 hours ago [-]
I suppose I'd rather the US wins AI as opposed to, say, China
davidgf 19 minutes ago [-]
If you're an US citizen, I would understand why. If you're from elsewhere, looking at how both countries deal with foreign policies, perhaps the answer requires some serious reflection.
malka1986 13 minutes ago [-]
I'm from the EU.
I'd rather China wins this. By a landslide.
I cant wait for the EU finally turns its back on the US and start integrating seriously with China.
cyanydeez 15 minutes ago [-]
Yeah, there's nothing about the current America I want to "win" AI; nor the people leading it.
I'm sure China has the same type of leadership, but they've yet to threaten to nuke a whole civilization.
Obviously, we want to be in the middle between what America represents and China, and that's currently Europe.
sunaurus 24 minutes ago [-]
Realistically I am starting to think China would be more responsible with it than the US.
CharlieDigital 10 minutes ago [-]
The US no longer feels like a place where the rule of law applies.
For whatever you want to fault China with (human rights, personal freedoms, etc.), there is at least the facade of rule of law.
US is masks off and not even a thin veneer that rule of law applies any more.
fcantournet 12 minutes ago [-]
Don't mean to make Americans sad but "the US" doesn't win AI, a few oligarchs win AI (if US companies end up winning).
The question is not US v China, it's Peter Thiel and Elon Musk vs literally anything else (that would be clearly better).
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I don't want any one particular country, or organization, to "win" AI. I want AI capabilities to remain diffuse and spread out, so that everybody has access to approximately equal levels of AI. If anything, you might say that I want "Open Source to win AI".
The most widely used AI systems are controlled by a few billionaires. I'd like to see it become much more spread out.
It seems that its financial possible for a handful of companies to learn everything.
It doesn't matter how we solve 'work':
It can be AGI, it can also be the already existing massive global scale Reinforcement Loop we all feed through using ChatGPT and co, it could be to compute RL or by buying experts teaching this knowledge to some AI system.
Companies also start to put the 'human' part into the agentic layer.
A while back anyone was somehow a benefit even if they did some kind of shitty work. Today i don't think this is true anymore. I would prefer to manage some avg ai than a shitty person.
This will and is already disrupting human lives.
- you, chained on your sofa, watching ads "tailored-made by AI for you"
- weaponized robots roaming the streets to ensure everyone is "at work" and not "at leisure activities"
- "no need to vote", of course, because "AI already knows what's good for you"...
Blipverts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blipvert
Obviously, if you're a child you can't work, so you need to be advertising fodder.
China took a very rich business man and told him to stop showing his richness and start doing more for china.
China has a real plan for renewable energy and pushing through it.
China is smarter because it doesn't allow some people to vote for people like Trump and its smarter than russia because it is less motivated by one persons personal agenda.
Having people like Peter Thiel over there who thinks daemons exist?
With Elon Musk having all social security numbers and no one cares about that? Or his blant disruption of democracy?
In china people disappear, true, but at least with China you know what you get. With USA its schizophrenia every 4 years and it wouldnt matter to me if suddenly my air travels are no longer possible due to Trump or i have to pay a lot more due to market disruptions.
I'd rather China wins this. By a landslide.
I cant wait for the EU finally turns its back on the US and start integrating seriously with China.
I'm sure China has the same type of leadership, but they've yet to threaten to nuke a whole civilization.
Obviously, we want to be in the middle between what America represents and China, and that's currently Europe.
For whatever you want to fault China with (human rights, personal freedoms, etc.), there is at least the facade of rule of law.
US is masks off and not even a thin veneer that rule of law applies any more.
The question is not US v China, it's Peter Thiel and Elon Musk vs literally anything else (that would be clearly better).