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"Plain text has been around for decades and it's here to stay." – Unsung (unsung.aresluna.org)
ssivark 4 hours ago [-]
Couldn't help riffing off on a tangent from the title (since the article is about diagramming tools)...

Dylan Beattie has a thought-provoking presentation for anyone who believes that "plain text" is a simple / solid substrate for computing: "There's no such thing as plain text" https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/theres-no-such-thing-as... (you'll find many videos from different conferences)

rmunn 28 minutes ago [-]
Haven't watched the videos yet, but from the slides, it looks like part of the issue he was talking about was encodings (there's a slide illustrating UTF-16LE ve UTF-16BE, for example). Thankfully, with UTF-8 becoming the default everywhere (so that you need a really good reason not to use it for any given document), we're back at "yes, there is such a thing as plain text" again. It has a much larger set of valid characters, but if you receive a text file without knowing its encoding, you can just assume it's UTF-8 and have a 99.7% chance of being right.

FINALLY.

draven 14 minutes ago [-]
Also: M-x artist-mode in emacs.
suprjami 3 hours ago [-]
The list at the top could be longer:

- https://asciiflow.com/

- https://asciidraw.github.io/

Anybody know more?

snackbroken 1 hours ago [-]
D2 https://d2lang.com/ added beta support for ASCII & Unicode output last year.
suprjami 1 hours ago [-]
That would be interesting. I like D2 though the lack of control over the layout is a bit frustrating sometimes.
4k93n2 57 minutes ago [-]
keyle 41 minutes ago [-]
I'm all for it, but it's dangerously mixing ASCII with the meaning of plain-text...
dlcarrier 4 hours ago [-]
From the title, I was not expecting a bunch of extended ASCII characters.
Freak_NL 1 hours ago [-]
The article mentioned that the use of 'ASCII' within the context of those tools should not be seen as the limited character set ASCII. Personally, I would avoid mentioning ASCII at all.

The title just talks of plain text though, and plain text usually means UTF-8 encoded text these days. Plain, as in conventional, standardised, portable, and editable with any text editor. I would be surprised if someone talked about plain text as being limited to just ASCII.

OuterVale 4 hours ago [-]
Unsung is one of the best little blogs around. Well worth checking out the rest of the posts.
shevy-java 28 minutes ago [-]
Text and text files are simple. I think this is their number #1 advantage.

There are limitations though. Compare a database of .yml files to a database in a DBMS. I wrote a custom forum via ruby + yaml files. It also works. It also can not compete anywhere with e. g. rails/activerecord and so forth. Its sole advantage is simplicity. Everywhere else it loses without even a fight.

nullhole 4 hours ago [-]
I have a mixed opinion of unicode, but it's hard not to love the box-drawing / block-element chars.
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edelkas 5 hours ago [-]
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