Yeah I guess two companies who would otherwise be considered going for bankruptcy have models too expensive to run. As they don't see themselves making money any time soon, they have to turn every future model into a weird fascination.
redsocksfan45 1 hours ago [-]
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concinds 1 hours ago [-]
These models demonstrably have good vulnerability research capabilities.
I'm sure their marketing department is ecstatic but you guys are far more hype-based than what you're calling out.
ZyanWu 1 hours ago [-]
> demonstrably
I'm not entirely up to date on each week's LLM hype train/scandal but last I heard there was no public access to it or public-trusted 3rd parties that can review model's capabilities
2ndorderthought 27 minutes ago [-]
You are up to date. Mythos had unauthorized access because of poor security but that's it as far as I know. Not exactly a good sign for something being advertised as a weapon...
brikym 1 hours ago [-]
It's like that phone call in The Big Short where Goldman suddenly change their mind once they hold a position.
vasco 1 hours ago [-]
Would AGI start by hacking competing labs to hamper their progress?
Avicebron 1 hours ago [-]
You'll have to define what you mean by AGI
fodkodrasz 1 hours ago [-]
AGI: Automatically Generating Income
jwr 1 hours ago [-]
I have no idea why people still even attempt to believe anything that comes out of Altman's mouth. Do we not learn from the past?
apples_oranges 1 hours ago [-]
Idk about Altman, I missed that he’s a bad guy now apparently, but people also still listen to certain politicians that routinely lie every day and don’t even bother to make the lies fit the other ones they said before, so..
michelb 45 minutes ago [-]
Has there been a single positive post about Altman?
giwook 9 minutes ago [-]
I wonder what that says about Altman.
GuB-42 48 minutes ago [-]
Altman played no small part in the current price of RAM. He told everyone he would buy 40% of all the RAM, causing shortages and a huge increase in price, just to take it back a few months later. So yeah, he is a bad guy now.
People don't become bad guys just because they lie. The consequences of their actions (and their lies) matter more. Take Elon Musk for instance, he has always been a recognized liar, even when he was a good guy. What changed? Before, he was famous for making the electric car people actually wanted to drive, and cool rockets. Then came the politics: supporting the party most of his fans disliked, being responsible for many government job losses, in particular in the field of environmental preservation (ironic for a supporter of "green" energy), etc...
giwook 8 minutes ago [-]
That's far from the only reason why he's "a bad guy" now.
xandrius 1 hours ago [-]
You missed literally every single post/article about the guy?
giwook 8 minutes ago [-]
More likely that confirmation bias acted as a filter.
pluc 1 hours ago [-]
My thinking is that if there would be more money in releasing Mythos and Cyber than there is in just scary unverifiable (or verified using very favorable context - Mythos) propaganda, they would. These aren't people that go for second best or care about the state of the world.
xandrius 1 hours ago [-]
Make it sound "scary good", tell everyone and their mom, charge gullible companies $$$$$ for its premium access and then move on.
lossolo 49 minutes ago [-]
And government contracts.
Xmd5a 53 minutes ago [-]
>Me: ok but you did not answer my question: is it possible to engineer paranoia ?
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sexylinux 10 minutes ago [-]
Is this a model that will finally work without creating errors?
cmiles8 59 minutes ago [-]
It’s a marketing move, pure and simple.
Put up velvet ropes outside… leak out rumors about the horrors inside. Whether it’s LLMs or carnies with tents full of “freaks” it’s the same playbook.
Watching OpenAI tumble from the clear market leader into “hey guys us too!” territory has been insightful.
mnmnmn 34 minutes ago [-]
OpenAI is such trash. Worked with them on a project, they blew off meetings, lied to us, etc
le-mark 35 minutes ago [-]
It’s clear at this point local models are sufficient so what gives? These big providers don’t have a leg to stand on. Their only path to relevance is super ai that local models can’t run. So the “we have it but you can’t use it” is either true or a con. I bet it’s a con.
I personally am ready to buy the drop when this bubble pops.
bryancoxwell 14 minutes ago [-]
I’m not up to date on local models, but is that clear?
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feverzsj 1 hours ago [-]
With subsidy gone, token price goes sky high. The biggest shit show is about to happen.
xandrius 1 hours ago [-]
Then we switch to open LLMs which are not backed by greedy VCs and headed by evil white dudes.
jurgenburgen 55 minutes ago [-]
That’s great but who will pay for all the data center debt?
cmiles8 52 minutes ago [-]
The debt goes bad and those that issued the debt absorb losses. Many that went in deep lose their shirts.
Thats how this stuff works, although there’s a whole generation that’s not seen the back side of a bubble and seems to think there’s no such thing as a downside.
giwook 7 minutes ago [-]
Just their shirts?
I'd rather lose my pants if I had to lose anything, so then I'd still be presentable for Zoom calls.
throwaway132448 28 minutes ago [-]
2007 called they want their free-market philosophy back.
2ndorderthought 46 minutes ago [-]
Let them fail before it gets even worse is my take. The future is small but capable local models.
robohoe 53 minutes ago [-]
The taxpayers and paying customers that’s who!
SadErn 1 hours ago [-]
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Rendered at 12:21:33 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time) with Vercel.
"No mine is the most dangerous"
"Nuh uh mine is"
"Mine could kill everyone!"
"Mine could do it faster!"
"Prove it!!!"
This is where we are
I'm sure their marketing department is ecstatic but you guys are far more hype-based than what you're calling out.
I'm not entirely up to date on each week's LLM hype train/scandal but last I heard there was no public access to it or public-trusted 3rd parties that can review model's capabilities
People don't become bad guys just because they lie. The consequences of their actions (and their lies) matter more. Take Elon Musk for instance, he has always been a recognized liar, even when he was a good guy. What changed? Before, he was famous for making the electric car people actually wanted to drive, and cool rockets. Then came the politics: supporting the party most of his fans disliked, being responsible for many government job losses, in particular in the field of environmental preservation (ironic for a supporter of "green" energy), etc...
>ChatGPT: This content was flagged for possible cybersecurity risk. If this seems wrong, try rephrasing your request. To get authorized for security work, join the Trusted Access Cyber program.
Put up velvet ropes outside… leak out rumors about the horrors inside. Whether it’s LLMs or carnies with tents full of “freaks” it’s the same playbook.
Watching OpenAI tumble from the clear market leader into “hey guys us too!” territory has been insightful.
I personally am ready to buy the drop when this bubble pops.
Thats how this stuff works, although there’s a whole generation that’s not seen the back side of a bubble and seems to think there’s no such thing as a downside.
I'd rather lose my pants if I had to lose anything, so then I'd still be presentable for Zoom calls.