Ironically legalization has done more to reduce weeds popularity than any ad campaign. The old-school California medical system was honestly much better than what we see now though. Rather than moving marijuana to an alcohol type model, I wish they had moved alcohol to a medical marijuana one instead. Quick doctors appointment every 6-12 months on an opt in basis - just a check up to make sure you are partaking responsibly. America loves to make things a binary; all or nothing.
pavel_lishin 27 minutes ago [-]
> Quick doctors appointment every 6-12 months on an opt in basis - just a check up to make sure you are partaking responsibly.
What would irresponsible partaking look like, and would doctors be able to actually detect it?
Nearly every prescription I've ever received has been pretty lax, with the only exception being one psychiatrist who prescribed me ADD medication - but only after I had both an EKG and an ECG done. Everyone else just asked me a few questions, and filled out the prescription.
butlike 1 hours ago [-]
Devil's advocate: I don't need you to police my behaviors or protect me from myself. I know what I need better than you do.
thot_experiment 22 minutes ago [-]
What are you talking about. A. those systems don't make sure you partake responsibly, you even admit it yourself with the claim that legalization reduced popularity. and B. it's like so so so much better than alcohol or tobacco. Are you seriously suggesting that's where the bar should be for government regulation?
All drugs should be legal and we should have good programs to take care of you if you fuck up their use, it would be vastly cheaper and better for society than criminalization, especially if your claims about legalization reducing use are true.
stringfood 50 minutes ago [-]
but some people want to enjoy the recreational aspect who have no disability or strict medical need for the drug?
comprev 22 minutes ago [-]
It's a psychological addition of being stoned and slightly detached from reality - no different to people munching pills every weekend at a rave or drinking enough to be tipsy (or wasted, if that's your thing)
It's escapism, pure and simple.
moomin 1 hours ago [-]
There’s a guy from my parent’s generation who smoked. A lot. Extremely decent guy, one of the reasons I made it through my own childhood in one piece. He’s been clean for ten years. He tells me he can barely remember a 20 year stretch of his life.
Great guy, but not an advert for cannabis use.
dh2022 9 minutes ago [-]
I like South Park's take on this. If you smoke marihuana nothing will happen to you. 15 years later you will still be watching TV on your parents' living room couch :).
amanaplanacanal 1 hours ago [-]
Smoked a lot when I was younger, eventually decided that sitting around stoned was pretty boring, so I quit.
summarybot 50 minutes ago [-]
if either of your parents suffer from any sort of mental condition you should not use cannabis at all, and stop if you are using, as it can induce psych*sis .
stringfood 2 hours ago [-]
people think you can't get addicted to weed? What do they think potheads were
IshKebab 40 minutes ago [-]
I have wine pretty much every week and I wouldn't say I'm addicted to it. Addiction doesn't just mean you do it a lot.
jazz9k 2 hours ago [-]
As My co-worker once said: "I've been smoking weed every day for 20 years, and I'm still not addicted to it!!"
cineticdaffodil 2 hours ago [-]
Just aggressively enthusiastic one-herb-cures-all medicinal enthusiasts?
AndrewKemendo 2 hours ago [-]
This is so tired of an argument
Anyone can get behaviorally addicted to anything. Refined Sugar is currently the #1 drug in the world and people are dying and sick from it but nobody cares because people equivocate “sugar” from fresh mango and a nerds rope as the same
Addiction to cocaine alcohol or opiates are both behavioral and induce biological/chemical dependency
This is exactly the equivocation you see in practice:
“ Those withdrawing from heavy usage will experience a sharp decrease in dopamine release, which might encourage continued use. Studies have shown the risk of developing CUD is greater for those who start using before the age of 25, as Amy did, and for those who use heavily or have pre-existing mental health issues or genetic predispositions to developing addiction.”
butlike 1 hours ago [-]
> and for those who use heavily or have pre-existing mental health issues or genetic predispositions to developing addiction
Who would of thunk that those needing the medicine might overdo it?
1shooner 39 minutes ago [-]
But you are also equivocating:
>Anyone can get behaviorally addicted to anything.
This disregards the broad range of observed likelihood of a behavioral addiction to a given substance, and the magnitude of negative effects of such an addiction.
Likewise, saying 'nobody cares' about the amount of refined sugar in diet isn't even equivocating, it's just not true.
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What would irresponsible partaking look like, and would doctors be able to actually detect it?
Nearly every prescription I've ever received has been pretty lax, with the only exception being one psychiatrist who prescribed me ADD medication - but only after I had both an EKG and an ECG done. Everyone else just asked me a few questions, and filled out the prescription.
All drugs should be legal and we should have good programs to take care of you if you fuck up their use, it would be vastly cheaper and better for society than criminalization, especially if your claims about legalization reducing use are true.
It's escapism, pure and simple.
Great guy, but not an advert for cannabis use.
Anyone can get behaviorally addicted to anything. Refined Sugar is currently the #1 drug in the world and people are dying and sick from it but nobody cares because people equivocate “sugar” from fresh mango and a nerds rope as the same
Addiction to cocaine alcohol or opiates are both behavioral and induce biological/chemical dependency
This is exactly the equivocation you see in practice:
“ Those withdrawing from heavy usage will experience a sharp decrease in dopamine release, which might encourage continued use. Studies have shown the risk of developing CUD is greater for those who start using before the age of 25, as Amy did, and for those who use heavily or have pre-existing mental health issues or genetic predispositions to developing addiction.”
Who would of thunk that those needing the medicine might overdo it?
>Anyone can get behaviorally addicted to anything.
This disregards the broad range of observed likelihood of a behavioral addiction to a given substance, and the magnitude of negative effects of such an addiction.
Likewise, saying 'nobody cares' about the amount of refined sugar in diet isn't even equivocating, it's just not true.