Could we have a bit more "who and where" on this please? "Relax.ai by Civo", great, who are Civo? Where's the datacenter? What's the corporate structure? UK resident founders?
fmajid 33 minutes ago [-]
Civo is a UK cloud provider known mostly for its low-cost Kubernetes hosting service (albeit with fairly expensive storage).
aaron695 24 minutes ago [-]
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dagi3d 45 minutes ago [-]
what's preventing you from going to their website? op has linked directly to the documentation, so that info is not necessary expected to be there
Planktonne 37 minutes ago [-]
OP should have linked to the website rather than the documentation; that would have provided more immediate context for the discussion.
dagi3d 21 minutes ago [-]
It depends on who you ask
pornel 32 minutes ago [-]
> what's preventing you from going to their website?
Lack of links.
It's a common annoyance when subsections of a site fail to link back to the parent.
tomaytotomato 4 minutes ago [-]
Congrats, its a small step in the right direction.
The UK it seems has dropped the ball on the whole training and building models part, although we are punching up in other areas now.
We really need to get our own equivalent to Mistral, and fast!
yanis_t 34 minutes ago [-]
Just my curiosity. Is (insert country) sovereign X is an efficient marketing strategy these days?
PaulRobinson 18 minutes ago [-]
Yes.
Some people might interpret this comment as political commentary, but it’s actually just the reality of what people are saying and doing.
There’s a lot of data to suggest that America’s recent policy of reducing its soft power around the World & decoupling itself from alignment with interests of allies is causing increased interest and prioritisation of sovereign capability across tech, defence, public health and policy programs.
This was a campaign strategy/promise for the US President. I’m not going to comment on whether it’s good for the US or for the allies, but I will note it could have been better anticipated by all: the only real surprise is the speed and depth.
It raises some interesting questions - it’s one thing to say you don’t want Microsoft or Starlink in your infra tech stack, or don’t want to use AWS or GCP, but where does the line stop? Does the UK get out of Trident? Does the UN General Assembly get out of New York? No idea, but the fact these are conversations probably happening right now is remarkable.
I'm not sure if you are asking for hard numbers, but I would say it's definitely "a thing" for people to reduce their reliance on certain countries.
bcjdjsndon 22 minutes ago [-]
I mean, it's pretty rich for coloniser like the British empire to be talking about soverign anything
rcxdude 12 minutes ago [-]
Yes, at least in certain sectors.
ttoinou 27 minutes ago [-]
Have you heard about companies training LLMs on your data ?
stevesimmons 28 minutes ago [-]
It is if your country isn't in the US and (a) GDPR requires data residency in UK/EU; (b) you're concerned about capricious actions by the US govt cutting off access to US-controlled services (cloud, payments systems, etc).
00deadbeef 29 minutes ago [-]
5 minutes to load and it just dumps me to a documentation site with no useful information about that this is, who made it, what it can do, etc.
Havoc 32 minutes ago [-]
Nice. All for seeing more geographically diverse options.
BTW don’t see opencode in the docs yet much less known tools are?
Cakez0r 37 minutes ago [-]
UK sovereign data? Land of arrests for posts on social media? Member of five eyes, "you spy on our citizens and we'll spy on yours and call it intelligence sharing"? Land of the infamous Online Safety act? That UK? Why would anyone want their data in the UK?
iLoveOncall 57 minutes ago [-]
Why would smaller and worse models not be 80% cheaper?
If I can run those models on my consumer hardware, I'd better believe they are 80% cheaper than the models that need 1 TB of RAM.
graemep 40 minutes ago [-]
Comment from poster says they are offering Deepseek v4-Pro. Cannot find any details on website.
Personal take: terrible name. RelaxAI feels like you trawled for available .ai domains with dictionary words and landed on this. But it doesn't work, unless it's a relaxed AI. Is it slower, but cheaper, we'll process your requests when we get to them, so relax!
You could have bought languagemodels.co.uk off me and used that!
virtualritz 34 minutes ago [-]
Personal take: terribly disguised pitch to get someone to buy that way too long domain name from you.
r_lee 32 minutes ago [-]
> You could have bought languagemodels.co.uk off me and used that!
this is a joke, right?
blitzar 28 minutes ago [-]
Relax, don't do it, when you want to go to it.
bflesch 29 minutes ago [-]
As The Crown is sovereign of the United Kingdom, is this running in Buckingham Palace or in City of London?
Can the user choose which sovereign is doing the computation?
I'd personally prefer not to have the weird uncle do the computation, maybe the younger ones living abroad can do it.
;)
amelius 1 hours ago [-]
This looks very interesting.
I have no idea why you got downvoted so much.
iso1631 45 minutes ago [-]
HN doesn't like data sovereignty. AMERICA NUMBER ONE and all that.
benjamintnorris 2 hours ago [-]
Hi HN, I'm Ben, founding engineer at relaxAI.
We built a UK sovereign inference provider for developers who are either paying too much for OpenAI/Claude tokens or can't use US hyperscalers due to data residency requirements.
The short version: drop-in OpenAI-compatible API, latest open source models (Kimi K2.6, DeepSeek V4 Pro, Nemotron 3 Super, GPT OSS 120b), running on NVIDIA Blackwell GPUs in the UK. Zero code changes to switch from OpenAI. Up to 80% cheaper per token cost saving!
We built it on fully UK sovereign cloud infrastructure, so data never leaves UK jurisdiction. For anyone building in regulated sectors — finance, legal, health, defence — that matters a lot. But honestly, most of our early users just came for the huge cost savings.
We're looking for developers to kick the tyres. Check out our API docs at relax.ai/docs. I'd love your feedback and happy to answer any questions.
timruffles 28 minutes ago [-]
Firstly, congrats! As a Brit this looks cool, and I'm happy to see it. I wish you every success.
Secondly: I get that 'sovereign' is probably an important sales term for your company. But this, in common with the government's 'sov/ai' fund, does not deserve to be described as sovereign. This is other countries' models served on chips designed and manufactured abroad, powered by a grid which imports 44% of its power.
Of course this isn't your company's fault. Last week I went to an event where the sovereignai.gov.uk people presented. In a very Keir Starmer way (spiritually, he wasn't there), they said in as many words 'oh but I'm sure all reasonable people would agree _really_ sovereign AI would be too hard. So let's all agree to pretend that just popping a bit more money into the AI startup ecosystem is a sovereign AI strategy'.
I'm unsure if the UK does need to be sovereign in anything; it certainly doesn't seem to want to be. But I will continue to poke fun at anything using the pompous phrase 'sovereign' for anything that isn't.
If sovereign AI is a problem you're in earnest about, I hope you go after it seriously, and fix the rest of the stack. I'll cheer you on!
jonplackett 20 minutes ago [-]
Tbf the title only says sovereign _inference_
bcjdjsndon 24 minutes ago [-]
If I could give prizes for comments you'd get one. Too much fart sniffing goes on in these parts, it's always a pleasant change to see dissent
jstummbillig 53 minutes ago [-]
Hey Ben. I find communication like this fairly off-putting. In so far the 80% cheaper per token (or any part of it) is something of your own making/ingenuity, by all means, do tell, but it requires comparing token cost fairly with comparable models on i.e. OpenRouter and not across different models and pretending it's the same thing.
robertlagrant 4 minutes ago [-]
Hi Ben - how are you positioning yourself vs LocAI? I had a few chats with them and they have a fairly similar pitch.
spacebanana7 49 minutes ago [-]
Is your business plan essentially to run mid tier models on hardware in the UK?
I do see the value in this as some enterprises need local data residency, the UK energy grid realistically can't handle new multi GW xAI-style data centres, and many applications don't need frontier models (but do need more than small local ones).
imdsm 41 minutes ago [-]
Marketing aside, why are you using the term "UK sovereign"?
I assume UK based DCs, so why not just say that, UK based LLM inference.
Is it a DC owned/ran by HM Gov? Is that why it's sovereign?
Much the same way the word "patriotism" is more common in US national discourse, "sovereignty" is very common in UK national discourse.
bcjdjsndon 28 minutes ago [-]
You're thinking of when chavs used to wear sovereign rings... it's fell out of fashion now tbh
StilesCrisis 37 minutes ago [-]
He does say that? "running on NVIDIA Blackwell GPUs in the UK" is in there and that's pretty unambiguous.
graemep 51 minutes ago [-]
So the pricing is 12.50/month for unlimited chat, or 60p per million tokens output/10p per million input? For use with a coding assistant it would be the latter?
greenchair 38 minutes ago [-]
Congrats on the launch. More options for consumers in this space the better!
hathym 47 minutes ago [-]
why use this over openrouter?
raesene9 32 minutes ago [-]
I'd expect for workflows where there is value in knowing that the data is processed in the UK. From a contractual/data protection standpoint, that could be very useful, depending on the use case.
nicce 32 minutes ago [-]
Avoiding routing through US or US-based companies.
imdsm 40 minutes ago [-]
good question, it's going to take a lot to dislodge openrouter from my workflows
panchtatvam 46 minutes ago [-]
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imdsm 42 minutes ago [-]
While I'm British, based in the UK, seeing prices in £ really throws me
Token prices should be in $ as that's how our brains work
gregjw 32 minutes ago [-]
Likewise, strange right. I live in Japan now, but even living here, I just expect all online provider pricing to be in USD.
Rendered at 11:05:41 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time) with Vercel.
Lack of links.
It's a common annoyance when subsections of a site fail to link back to the parent.
The UK it seems has dropped the ball on the whole training and building models part, although we are punching up in other areas now.
We really need to get our own equivalent to Mistral, and fast!
Some people might interpret this comment as political commentary, but it’s actually just the reality of what people are saying and doing.
There’s a lot of data to suggest that America’s recent policy of reducing its soft power around the World & decoupling itself from alignment with interests of allies is causing increased interest and prioritisation of sovereign capability across tech, defence, public health and policy programs.
This was a campaign strategy/promise for the US President. I’m not going to comment on whether it’s good for the US or for the allies, but I will note it could have been better anticipated by all: the only real surprise is the speed and depth.
It raises some interesting questions - it’s one thing to say you don’t want Microsoft or Starlink in your infra tech stack, or don’t want to use AWS or GCP, but where does the line stop? Does the UK get out of Trident? Does the UN General Assembly get out of New York? No idea, but the fact these are conversations probably happening right now is remarkable.
BTW don’t see opencode in the docs yet much less known tools are?
If I can run those models on my consumer hardware, I'd better believe they are 80% cheaper than the models that need 1 TB of RAM.
Input Price: £1.17 Output Price: £2.33
So, slightly cheaper than Fireworks AI
come on now
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBBB-m9peMQ
You could have bought languagemodels.co.uk off me and used that!
this is a joke, right?
Can the user choose which sovereign is doing the computation?
I'd personally prefer not to have the weird uncle do the computation, maybe the younger ones living abroad can do it.
;)
I have no idea why you got downvoted so much.
We built a UK sovereign inference provider for developers who are either paying too much for OpenAI/Claude tokens or can't use US hyperscalers due to data residency requirements.
The short version: drop-in OpenAI-compatible API, latest open source models (Kimi K2.6, DeepSeek V4 Pro, Nemotron 3 Super, GPT OSS 120b), running on NVIDIA Blackwell GPUs in the UK. Zero code changes to switch from OpenAI. Up to 80% cheaper per token cost saving!
We built it on fully UK sovereign cloud infrastructure, so data never leaves UK jurisdiction. For anyone building in regulated sectors — finance, legal, health, defence — that matters a lot. But honestly, most of our early users just came for the huge cost savings.
We're looking for developers to kick the tyres. Check out our API docs at relax.ai/docs. I'd love your feedback and happy to answer any questions.
Secondly: I get that 'sovereign' is probably an important sales term for your company. But this, in common with the government's 'sov/ai' fund, does not deserve to be described as sovereign. This is other countries' models served on chips designed and manufactured abroad, powered by a grid which imports 44% of its power.
Of course this isn't your company's fault. Last week I went to an event where the sovereignai.gov.uk people presented. In a very Keir Starmer way (spiritually, he wasn't there), they said in as many words 'oh but I'm sure all reasonable people would agree _really_ sovereign AI would be too hard. So let's all agree to pretend that just popping a bit more money into the AI startup ecosystem is a sovereign AI strategy'.
I'm unsure if the UK does need to be sovereign in anything; it certainly doesn't seem to want to be. But I will continue to poke fun at anything using the pompous phrase 'sovereign' for anything that isn't.
If sovereign AI is a problem you're in earnest about, I hope you go after it seriously, and fix the rest of the stack. I'll cheer you on!
I do see the value in this as some enterprises need local data residency, the UK energy grid realistically can't handle new multi GW xAI-style data centres, and many applications don't need frontier models (but do need more than small local ones).
I assume UK based DCs, so why not just say that, UK based LLM inference.
Is it a DC owned/ran by HM Gov? Is that why it's sovereign?
Not a criticism, more of a critique.
Token prices should be in $ as that's how our brains work