I have to say, this whole saga is extremely interesting. Not just from a popcorn-enjoyer's point of view, but as a bit of a bell weather for 2026 software dev.
christophilus 1 hours ago [-]
Time will tell. I predict this is just the same 20 year pattern of: people on the internet are irate about $latest_thing, and everyone will move on to some other hot topic.
jakobnissen 20 minutes ago [-]
But surely, whether or not the Internet mob moves on has no bearing on what actual lessons to learn from this saga. Will the vibe rewrite turn out to be a disaster or are LLMs already capable of writing human level code at this scale? That question is interesting no matter the level of attention this gets.
stephbook 16 minutes ago [-]
I'm believe projects that pin old versions or maintain their own shoddy fork will be left behind. Deprecation is fine.
consumer451 21 minutes ago [-]
For some reason, when thinking about this, the visual of all the scientists at CERN camping out for the results of the Higgs Boson experiment jumped into my mind.
This is not as big an experiment as that. But, for software dev, it feels very significant.
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ibejoeb 11 minutes ago [-]
People are going to be using a lot less software if the selection criteria include not being no agents.
> Electrobun aims to be a complete solution-in-a-box for building, updating, and shipping ultra fast, tiny, and cross-platform desktop applications written in Typescript. Under the hood it uses bun to execute the main process and to bundle webview typescript, and has native bindings written in Objc, C++, and several core parts written in zig.
mentalgear 1 hours ago [-]
While I'm certainly sceptical of pure LLM (re)-written software, I would have to assume in the case of the cyberattack vector that Anthropic used their new Mythos model to adequately test against.
Maybe someone has more info of them mentioning that.
impulser_ 1 hours ago [-]
Jarred said this had nothing to do with Mythos or Anthropic.
bobajeff 56 minutes ago [-]
This is my first time hearing about Electrobun it sounds like it could be a good alternative to electron. Their site mention CEF bundling as an option has anyone tried this?
avinassh 13 minutes ago [-]
TIL electrobun. How does it compare against electron?
qsera 1 hours ago [-]
I think it makes sense to stay away from large code bases built using LLMs until it is proven that it is possible to also maintain such code bases using LLMs or using reasonable human effort.
contextcost 52 minutes ago [-]
I have an idea on how to tell if a codebase is rotting under AI Agent maintenance.
We can collect and analyze how the coding agent reads code during programming tasks, and see if the code access and token consumption are steadily increasing for similar development tasks. If the code readability doesn't degrade for the agent, the maintainability of the codebase should be fine.
sheeshkebab 15 minutes ago [-]
Mist of human written codebases are unusable for llm dev by that definition.
Zakis1 1 hours ago [-]
It's alarming how people instantly jump to conclusions that Bun is now "AI slop".
Bun has been almost entirely worked on by LLM's for ~6 months now, long before the Rust re-write (source: https://x.com/jarredsumner/status/2054525268296118363). It already has been proven that LLM's can maintain such codebases.
nicce 1 hours ago [-]
> It already has been proven that LLM's can maintain such codebases.
Is it? Seems like bugs in Claude Code are getting out of hands. That project has a bit more lifetime.
kikimora 56 minutes ago [-]
Bun never was great in terms of stability. It has been vibe coded for 6 month but code was reviewed by a person.
>It already has been proven that LLM's can maintain such codebases.
Proven is a strong word. In my experience AI fails miserably at anything beyond junior level tasks. We will see soon, once bun goes into production.
esperent 39 minutes ago [-]
> Bun never was great in terms of stability
It's very easy to throw shade like this on software if you've got a bugbear with it. I'm sure you can even come up with a bunch of these "stability" problems when challenged on it. I know I could, for basically any large piece of software that I've ever used.
But really, is bun worse in this regard than any other similarly ambitious open source software within it's first few years?
ramon156 59 minutes ago [-]
Worked on by LLMs is fine, but the rust pr proved no one is reviewing anymore. You cannot review 1M LOC in 5 days.
fallenscope 1 hours ago [-]
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chuckadams 29 minutes ago [-]
I'm not joining the chorus condemning Bun for the vibe-rewrite, and I think it's fascinating whether it turns out to be a complete trainwreck or not. But FFS, it should have been a separate repo.
tln 5 minutes ago [-]
What? Why? Git has branches...
chuckadams 19 seconds ago [-]
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throwatdem12311 1 hours ago [-]
It’s really only a matter of time until someone forks the Zig version of Bun.
What a slap in the face to all the Zig developers that spent their time, effort and probably even some money contributing to it.
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jdw64 1 hours ago [-]
Realistically speaking, when Anthropic acquired Bun, they naturally would have needed a narrative showcasing that their AI excels even at relatively new languages like Zig. But since the Zig camp explicitly declared an anti-AI stance, it makes perfect sense why things played out this way. It's a understandable business realit
asdfsa32 45 minutes ago [-]
Add todo item: learn zig.
u_fucking_dork 1 hours ago [-]
Chill dog, it’s a programming language not a religion
ramon156 59 minutes ago [-]
What a weird take. Might as well give up on anything you care about, as its only an "x"
u_fucking_dork 5 minutes ago [-]
You shouldn’t feel slapped in the face if someone chooses a programming language you don’t like. Full stop.
feverzsj 36 minutes ago [-]
I doubt any sane human will continue using Bun.
chuckadams 27 minutes ago [-]
In this industry, that leaves most of us.
3as-123 1 hours ago [-]
Great, the author speaks out what everyone thinks but cannot say, either due to being invested in the hype or due to effectively having a gag order from their employers:
The bun rewrite was Anthropic's Vietnam and the open source community needs to react and and build resistance.
asdfsa32 41 minutes ago [-]
In many a brand name company now tokenmaxxing is the name of the game; CryptoBase, FacePaper, AntiqueOptics, tinyflacid, they all use AI usage metrics as part of their perf review these days.
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This is not as big an experiment as that. But, for software dev, it feels very significant.
> Electrobun aims to be a complete solution-in-a-box for building, updating, and shipping ultra fast, tiny, and cross-platform desktop applications written in Typescript. Under the hood it uses bun to execute the main process and to bundle webview typescript, and has native bindings written in Objc, C++, and several core parts written in zig.
Maybe someone has more info of them mentioning that.
Bun has been almost entirely worked on by LLM's for ~6 months now, long before the Rust re-write (source: https://x.com/jarredsumner/status/2054525268296118363). It already has been proven that LLM's can maintain such codebases.
Is it? Seems like bugs in Claude Code are getting out of hands. That project has a bit more lifetime.
>It already has been proven that LLM's can maintain such codebases.
Proven is a strong word. In my experience AI fails miserably at anything beyond junior level tasks. We will see soon, once bun goes into production.
It's very easy to throw shade like this on software if you've got a bugbear with it. I'm sure you can even come up with a bunch of these "stability" problems when challenged on it. I know I could, for basically any large piece of software that I've ever used.
But really, is bun worse in this regard than any other similarly ambitious open source software within it's first few years?
What a slap in the face to all the Zig developers that spent their time, effort and probably even some money contributing to it.
https://xcancel.com/YoavCodes/status/2058170216408813583#m
The bun rewrite was Anthropic's Vietnam and the open source community needs to react and and build resistance.