This is mostly an argument for full user customization. I'm willing to bet some people prefer the current scheme. Presumably the developer(s).
willtemperley 37 minutes ago [-]
In the same sense that a blockchain can be forked by using software that only accepts certain types of block, is it possible to fork the WWW in a similar manner? e.g. with changes that neuter the ad-mongers.
For example coming up with a way to get rid of these god awful cookies. Maybe ad-monger sites could be allowed in the same way an insecure connection is allowed behind a series of warnings?
vitally3643 15 minutes ago [-]
The internet is literally just a pipe. There's no limitation binding us to HTTP. You can use any protocol you want over the internet, anything at all.
willtemperley 7 minutes ago [-]
Well quite. So why are we living in this surveillance hellscape?
pogue 1 hours ago [-]
How are they going to be adding uBlock Origin to Chromium going forward if manifest v2 gets completely deprecated/removed entirely?
feverzsj 44 minutes ago [-]
Nothing. It will be a huge burden for them to maintain all the removed code. Their only choice is to integrate brave's adblocker.
pogue 18 minutes ago [-]
This seems to be the only way forward from what I can figure. Helium's main selling point is that it's essentially degoogled chromium + a few miscellaneous patches & full uBlock. But once Google completely strips all that out of Chromium project, that won't be a tenable option.
I'm not sure what Opera/Vivaldi/et al. use for their native adblocking, but Brave's rust adblocker makes the most sense to me. Really it's uBlock's filtering lists that keep the whole thing working anyway.
gruez 55 minutes ago [-]
AFAIK some of the other chromium forks (brave and/or edge?) were committed to backporting manifest v2 (or more specifically the webRequestBlocking API) for future chromium versions.
bjord 15 minutes ago [-]
this is not correct. neither brave nor edge has committed to that.
as of yet, there's no (publicly stated) contingency plan if the upstream mv2 code is excised, but I could be mistaken.
mrbluecoat 1 hours ago [-]
> cause havoc, and put people first
An odd pairing
willtemperley 51 minutes ago [-]
Not really. Every activist that made a real difference for the good caused some kind of havoc.
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[0]: https://github.com/imputnet/helium/issues/1532
[1]: https://github.com/imputnet/helium/issues/1850
For example coming up with a way to get rid of these god awful cookies. Maybe ad-monger sites could be allowed in the same way an insecure connection is allowed behind a series of warnings?
I'm not sure what Opera/Vivaldi/et al. use for their native adblocking, but Brave's rust adblocker makes the most sense to me. Really it's uBlock's filtering lists that keep the whole thing working anyway.
as of yet, there's no (publicly stated) contingency plan if the upstream mv2 code is excised, but I could be mistaken.
An odd pairing