In the Sri Lankan context filters are more important than ever, but I think activated carbon ones? Water is (heavily, I think!) chlorinated but pollution is pretty bad.
cassianoleal 22 days ago [-]
Oh yeah I never claimed it was new tech. I can say with some certainty that it's been popular in Brazil for a lot longer than 3 or 4 decades!
smusamashah 22 days ago [-]
This sound like Ghara https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghara which is very common in rural areas in subcontinent. It keeps water cool in summer. It gives water a very nice earthy taste. Ghara is usually paired with a clay bowl to drink water.
If you can buy a clay bowl or glass, get it and keep water in it on your side and drink from. It will be cool and will have a very nice earthy flavour. But not all clay pots are same quality. Some are not very porous and won't cool the water or give you different taste.
lukan 22 days ago [-]
But there is no filter in the Ghara?
smusamashah 22 days ago [-]
Correct, it does not. It is to keep water cool using similar (or may be same) principle. We also now have similar water tanks with taps (we call them coolers) made of clay. They don't filter but are made with similar stuff as a ghara only shaped like a tank with a tap like those Brazillan ones in parent's link.
culi 22 days ago [-]
Using clay to cool water in the summer is actually the original purpose of olla pots in the Southwest. They cool the water through evaporative cooling
Yes it does. But it might be worth it if you have more water than cooling capacity, or if you have an otherwise very dry house that you'd want a little but more humidified.
ASalazarMX 22 days ago [-]
Grandparents used to have this. The outer surface of the pot is detectably moist, but not by much, the water level wasnt noticeably lower by the end of the day, I'd say much less than a single cup. Their climate was very dry, crack-your-skin-dry, I don't think it would work as well in a humid environment.
cannonpr 22 days ago [-]
Yes you are losing water but the phase change energy of water is immense, very little needs to be evaporated comparatively for immense cooling.
thesz 21 days ago [-]
The cooler water gets, the less vapor it creates.
hei-lima 22 days ago [-]
Mostly in rural regions, but the 'filtro de barro' water from your grandma's house beats ANY expensive filter you can get, haha!
cassianoleal 22 days ago [-]
Agree! The water is so fresh and tasty out of them!
weinzierl 22 days ago [-]
This and the low-tech electrical shower-head are the two everyday Brazilian things that never cease to amaze me.
mlinhares 22 days ago [-]
Being poor sucks but at the same time being poor also makes you find alternative solutions to the incredibly expensive solutions first world countries use today. I really wish Brazil can invest heavily into renewables and free itself from oil and electrify even more of everything we do.
m463 22 days ago [-]
> electrical shower-head
Is that for electrically heated water?
I know that in the US on-demand electric water heater uses an enormous amount of electricity, like 100 amps.
kawera 22 days ago [-]
Brazilian electrical shower-heads use 20 to 30 amps max.
dtgriscom 22 days ago [-]
At what voltage? (I understand Brazil has districts with both 127V and 220V mains.)
Homes on districts that use 127v also have a second phase for 220v, mainly for shower heads, electric ovens, etc. Commercial property always have 220v.
idiotsecant 22 days ago [-]
Then they don't heat same volume to same temp, it's thermodynamics
culi 22 days ago [-]
Yes but they are also less efficient because they don't have point-of-use placement
m463 22 days ago [-]
wow, 20-30 amps at the shower head... that sounds a little frightening
point-of-use electrocution
idiotsecant 21 days ago [-]
Reasonably safe with ground fault circuit interruption.
SwtCyber 22 days ago [-]
The passive cooling is almost as clever as the filtration
seer 22 days ago [-]
Hmm just shared this with someone who works in this space in India, they got angry.
> It doesn’t work for 3rd world contaminants.
> White people have been making these for years. Doesn’t work
> We need hard TDS removal also
And the ceramic ones apparently are also bad:
> we had one of these for many years while growing up. the ceramic candles got fungus on them
Viruses are the bigger threat I think and just a filter like this will not stop them HepC and the like would be easily transmittable. Not really “safe”, maybe at best “better than nothing”
8by3 22 days ago [-]
Would would want to chlorinate the resulting water, these filters are only going to remove large particulates.
Clay/sand water filters have been in use for a long time, some from the roman period are still in use.
graemep 22 days ago [-]
I do not know whether this is what they meant, but in many places the biggest threat is now industrial pollutants not infectious diseases.
redeeman 22 days ago [-]
seems like he or she might have an anger and racism problem? "white people have been making these for years?"
PERHAPS instead of being angry at white people, they should look a bit into what they do in their own backyard.
yeah, downvote away :) but it doesnt make it not true, and thats why the downvotes will sting the downvoters so hard
seer 21 days ago [-]
She is leading some orgs in rural India, targeting empowering and helping women and has seen countless examples of Europeans / Americans coming over with noble ideas, making a mess, leaving, and sometimes things getting worse not better in response.
Took her a lot of empathy and understanding on what the situation is like on the ground really, second / third order effects, etc - to get to solutions that _actually_ help people there.
For example how do you do fair lending to people (rural Indian women) who have no bank account, no credit history, almost no financial history at all, and they want to star an enterprise? How do you “bootstrap financial trust?” And with proper and inventive organising she managed to lend to women and proved with data that they are 5x better borrowers than the equivalent male population, but were starved of accessible credit cause banks would not lend to them.
fastball 23 days ago [-]
There is a company[1] in Indonesia that actually makes very nice versions of this tech.
That ad claims it removes microplastics. I was led to believe there are few easy ways to accomplish such a thing. Is this a, "Well technically, we started at 100ug/mL and ended at 99.8ug/mL => reduction!" or is this a meaningful improvement in water quality? The pot looks to just be clay + charcoal + silver - which is not significantly different from other home water filtration systems.
gizmo686 22 days ago [-]
Filtering out microplastics is not particularly difficult. I just checked the first water filter brand that came to mind, and their independent test results [0] reported no detectable microplastics after filtration [1].
Having said that, the linked website above does not inspire much confidence. They have independent lab testing, which is good. However, that testing appears to only cover bacteria; and even their, only two types. Their lab testing also does not indicate any sort of methodology, and it is not clear if the lab was even attempting to test the filter, or if they were just testing the filtered water.
[0] Funded by them, and reported on their website
[1] Their sample had a known quantity of microplastics, of which they had a 75% detection rate for their control sample.
Aboutplants 22 days ago [-]
“The pot looks to just be clay + charcoal + silver - which is not significantly different from other home water filtration systems.”
Ah, the at home water filtration systems that encapsulated in plastics! Though the benefit of clean water likely makes any potential plastic contamination from the filters moot
PetitPrince 22 days ago [-]
Are microplastic produced predominantly by plastic leaching out of objects, or is it coming from garbage that got mechanically pulverized, UVized, and contaminating water sources ?
tlavoie 22 days ago [-]
Does the water end up including some of the colloidal silver? As it happens, there is someone living in my area who has taken colloidal silver in some fashion for ages, with the side effect of turning the skin a ghastly grey hue. I can't say how they're doing for infections and related illness, other than that they probably also have fewer in-person interactions with other people.
fastball 22 days ago [-]
Well the difference is that most home water filtration systems (e.g. Brita et al) are made out of plastic, so even if their filters do reduce microplastic levels, making that claim to consumers ("our plastic filters help reduce plastic in your water") might be a hard sell.
> A single Terra filter purifies up to 42 liters of safe, pure drinking water a day, equivalent of 2 and a half plastic gallons.
Someone should tell them to check their math.
ssl-3 22 days ago [-]
Those are plastic gallons. Plastic gallons are similar to treetalker gallons and ssl-3 gallons, in that all of these units share the property of being different compared to US gallons.
(The ssl-3 gallon is particularly strange: It isn't even a measure of volume at all.)
SoftTalker 22 days ago [-]
Heh never heard of a plastic gallon. I was imagining a plastic gallon jug such as a milk jug.
fastball 22 days ago [-]
Yeah, in Indonesia (and other parts of the world), the 5-gallon jug you would stick in e.g. a water cooler is called a "water gallon".
treetalker 22 days ago [-]
TIL! Not the first time I've made a mistake on account of failing to detect that a different English was being used.
SoftTalker 22 days ago [-]
I assume it's a local/informal unit of measure? DDG doesn't know what a "plastic gallon" unit is.
fastball 22 days ago [-]
It's not really a unit of measurement but rather just what you'd call the container[1], which in turn is 5 gallon / 19L. But nobody says "My 19L water jug", they they just say "My water gallon".
Since most people in Indonesia get their drinking water from these jugs, stating this filter's output in "gallon" terms is just the easiest way to communicate potential savings etc (since people pay per jug, so they think in jug terms, not in any other unit of measure).
I may have had an early version of this at home in Indonesia as a kid. Given how close we were to both sea level and the equator, the fact that the water was cool, even when site power failed for days, was bliss!
ks2048 22 days ago [-]
I'm in Antigua, Guatemala where the embedded video is from. As the video says, it may be "low tech", but it's not like something you can do very easily for yourself. Ecofiltro is everywhere here. But, it is more expensive then I would have thought - maybe $30 for a clay pot and $50 for it's container.
londons_explore 22 days ago [-]
For far less money than that you can buy a regular particle filter...
I wonder if you could achieve the same effect more easily/consistently using cement. It's basically how aquifers "filter" water. Limestone is naturally permeable unlike fired clay.. were you need to control the porosity. I'd imagine cement mixtures are much easier to handle and you can make arbitrary shapes (higher surface area and higher hydraulic pressure to increase the flow rate)
rdtsc 22 days ago [-]
Cement is not easy to make permeable. With the clay the trick is to put combustible material in the mix which gets burned off and leaves micropores behind.
SwtCyber 22 days ago [-]
Maybe, although I think cement would trade one set of manufacturing problems for another
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SwtCyber 22 days ago [-]
There is something very satisfying about sawdust being a feature rather than an impurity
brador 22 days ago [-]
That guidance comic is a disaster. The dirty water is the same color as the clean water.
Very confusing.
ChrisMarshallNY 22 days ago [-]
When I was a kid, we'd go camping, and we had these water filters that you would pump water through, and they would filter it.
It was ceramic, and I think it was the same idea, but we used a pump to force the water through (like a bicycle pump).
Transformanshen 22 days ago [-]
61 factories in 39 countries is impressive. But I'm always curious about the real world failure rate. How many of these filters get installed and then crack, or clog, or just get used as flower pots?
notjes 23 days ago [-]
Got hackernewsd
metalman 22 days ago [-]
they are not kidding about the "lowtech" or at least slowtech part, hey it loaded! no wonder it was slow, it's reporting about 1990 from 2020
rablackburn 22 days ago [-]
They probably could have loaded faster if they shipped less than 80mb(!) for a single page
Bluestein 22 days ago [-]
That used to be one's entire HDD.- :)
zahlman 22 days ago [-]
It took me a while to realize that this is not from "lowtechmagazine".
bilsbie 22 days ago [-]
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RobotCaleb 22 days ago [-]
Why should I trust an AI generated encyclopedia?
peddling-brink 22 days ago [-]
I look at it as gender affirming care, for bigots.
Laurel1234 22 days ago [-]
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Rendered at 08:53:02 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time) with Vercel.
https://g1.globo.com/saude/noticia/2026/03/14/filtro-de-barr...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceramic_water_filter
In the Sri Lankan context filters are more important than ever, but I think activated carbon ones? Water is (heavily, I think!) chlorinated but pollution is pretty bad.
If you can buy a clay bowl or glass, get it and keep water in it on your side and drink from. It will be cool and will have a very nice earthy flavour. But not all clay pots are same quality. Some are not very porous and won't cool the water or give you different taste.
Andy Ward demonstrated this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBos0j0FszU
Is that for electrically heated water?
I know that in the US on-demand electric water heater uses an enormous amount of electricity, like 100 amps.
https://www.worldstandards.eu/electricity/plug-voltage-by-co...
point-of-use electrocution
> It doesn’t work for 3rd world contaminants.
> White people have been making these for years. Doesn’t work
> We need hard TDS removal also
And the ceramic ones apparently are also bad:
> we had one of these for many years while growing up. the ceramic candles got fungus on them
Viruses are the bigger threat I think and just a filter like this will not stop them HepC and the like would be easily transmittable. Not really “safe”, maybe at best “better than nothing”
Clay/sand water filters have been in use for a long time, some from the roman period are still in use.
PERHAPS instead of being angry at white people, they should look a bit into what they do in their own backyard.
yeah, downvote away :) but it doesnt make it not true, and thats why the downvotes will sting the downvoters so hard
Took her a lot of empathy and understanding on what the situation is like on the ground really, second / third order effects, etc - to get to solutions that _actually_ help people there.
For example how do you do fair lending to people (rural Indian women) who have no bank account, no credit history, almost no financial history at all, and they want to star an enterprise? How do you “bootstrap financial trust?” And with proper and inventive organising she managed to lend to women and proved with data that they are 5x better borrowers than the equivalent male population, but were starved of accessible credit cause banks would not lend to them.
[1] https://www.terrawaterindonesia.com/
[0] Funded by them, and reported on their website
[1] Their sample had a known quantity of microplastics, of which they had a 75% detection rate for their control sample.
Ah, the at home water filtration systems that encapsulated in plastics! Though the benefit of clean water likely makes any potential plastic contamination from the filters moot
> A single Terra filter purifies up to 42 liters of safe, pure drinking water a day, equivalent of 2 and a half plastic gallons.
Someone should tell them to check their math.
(The ssl-3 gallon is particularly strange: It isn't even a measure of volume at all.)
Since most people in Indonesia get their drinking water from these jugs, stating this filter's output in "gallon" terms is just the easiest way to communicate potential savings etc (since people pay per jug, so they think in jug terms, not in any other unit of measure).
[1] https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61fpdmJYUuL.jpg
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_sand_filter
Very confusing.
It was ceramic, and I think it was the same idea, but we used a pump to force the water through (like a bicycle pump).