It was so cool when facebook, google and others used to use xmpp, at that time I used a single IM client https://adium.im
exe34 37 minutes ago [-]
I had amsn when msn and yahoo messenger were the place everybody I knew was at.
dewey 1 hours ago [-]
> Matrix reinvented the wheel as a rubber-tyred metro. On paper, it provides real benefits, such as climbing steeper inclines, which are then used to aggressively advertise and lobby local governments to buy in. But in the end, the municipality gets locked into a single vendor.
I stumble upon Matrix from time to time, but Jabber I haven't really seen anywhere in the past decade after my internet friends moved to IRC. Are there any bigger communities still using it? Back in the days Facebook Messenger was backed by it, so maybe there's still some bigger entity using it as a backbone for something?
inputmice 1 hours ago [-]
XMPP these days often gets used as a friends-and-family style messenger (Think WhatsApp, iMessage, Signal replacement) rather than something communities would use (Discord/IRC). A lot of users of XMPP are also out of the public eye. NATO, police forces and intelligence agencies use it. The community style channels are supported though and a search engine for them can be found here: https://search.jabber.network/channels/1
Semaphor 1 hours ago [-]
Yeah, I use it as a messenger for my wife and I.
svyatoslavpavl 60 minutes ago [-]
Jitsi Meet still runs on XMPP, Prosody handles the signaling. WhatsApp also started life as a patched ejabberd.
1970-01-01 7 minutes ago [-]
XMPP is the pinnacle of chat that just works. And it is champion by default, which is kind of the point here. All other popular systems and servers went defunct; it will never be taken over by BigCo and left to rot. Here's to 25 more years!
writtenone 7 minutes ago [-]
Are there any XMPP clients with the UX and privacy of Signal?
All of them seem to look like they're from the 00s!
Thanks! Any good Android clients? "Conversations" seems to be the best and it's nowhere near the polish of Signal & Co. crashes often, UX is clunky, family will never stick with it.
delduca 45 minutes ago [-]
I think Android still uses XMPP to delivery push notifications under the hood
inputmice 36 minutes ago [-]
Indeed. And on a Google-free Android phone the XMPP client Conversations can utilize its existing, permanent XMPP connection to deliver push notifications to other (mostly open-source) apps using an alternative to Google push (FCM) called UnifiedPush.
Google & XMPP standards foundation develop the very useful Jingle XEP, so XMPP is linked to the history of Google Voice and whatever Google Talk/Chat turned into, maybe somehow inspiring Google Meet? Jingle was also inspirational to WebRTC signalling.
lnz_me 1 hours ago [-]
i set up a xmpp server a few weeks ago for agent orchestration and agent to human workflows. hadn't inatalled ejabberd in a very long time but feeling right at home.
kogasa240p 1 hours ago [-]
Its biggest issue is adoption because it's very solid otherwise and even supports stuff like screen sharing.
zeafoamrun 49 minutes ago [-]
And I haven't used XMPP for about 20 of them (sadly)
giancarlostoro 47 minutes ago [-]
There was a time where both Google Chat (whatever it was called back then I lost track) and Facebook Chat were built on it. So you might have.
zeafoamrun 23 minutes ago [-]
You're right. I know at least one company used XMPP for things like customer support chat too. So maybe I have. I just mean the last time I used it intentionally was a long time ago before I was worn down futilely trying to convince friends to use it instead of locked down chat apps.
Flowdalic 1 hours ago [-]
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I stumble upon Matrix from time to time, but Jabber I haven't really seen anywhere in the past decade after my internet friends moved to IRC. Are there any bigger communities still using it? Back in the days Facebook Messenger was backed by it, so maybe there's still some bigger entity using it as a backbone for something?
All of them seem to look like they're from the 00s!
There was a talk at FOSDEM about that.
https://gultsch.video/w/gRGZqKKvNBvvMesyWNQzoK