Spotify is in the process of killing the librespot project that this and most third party Spotify players are built on. I think the golden age of music streaming is coming to an end. I’ve migrated to a self hosted library with streaming and radio for discovery. I hope we’ll see many projects in the space flourish. Many, like Navidrome and the whole OpenSubsonic ecosystem, seem to be doing quite well.
nan60 40 minutes ago [-]
> radio for discovery
Would you be willing to share a bit more about this setup? The only thing keeping my on streaming is the fact that its almost impossible to find new music otherwise. I know LastFM exists but it just doesn't click for me the way that streaming does. I like discovering music organically.
msmagh 20 seconds ago [-]
using nts.live and and fip radio -> https://www.radiofrance.fr/fip at the moment for same purpose. Radio France allows to save liked track names in profile to look up later.
bubblemoth 7 minutes ago [-]
I left spotify around two years ago for a self hosted option (I mostly use navidrome+feishin). Music discovery was a concern for me as well, but then I realized that I didn't like the idea of spotify curating which music I discovered. So far, this is what has worked for me:
- Actually listening to the music I have now. I think the art of listening through full albums has slowly died, but there is so much music we're ignoring because we just listen to Artist's top tracks.
- Word of mouth. Asking my friends what they listen to. This is a way that people used to discover music and I've found so much good music this way.
- Bandcamp. Bandcamp is SUCH a good way to discover new music. You can listen to the music in app, there are great articles and you can actually support the artists!
dylan604 29 minutes ago [-]
> radio for discovery
was a big question mark I had as well. The Clear Channel and iHeart stations are not known for discovery. Now if you find a college station or by some miracle an independent station you can get some new stuff. My favorite local college station is also ad free. They also have an app which I lean on as it's not the strongest transmitter so their coverage is spotty. Maybe there's other indy stations with apps as well??
mcmcmc 46 seconds ago [-]
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BLKNSLVR 10 minutes ago [-]
This radio station is local to the city I live in, and they've been great for music discovery for me, although heavy focus on local artists, but they've put me onto a few international artists as well.
I subscribe to them, have done so for ~10 years I reckon. I don't listen as much as I used to, but I want them to continue existing either way.
Be aware, the quality of their playlists is incredibly variable, but that's part of the charm. I guarantee you'll hear something you haven't heard before... for better or worse.
pbasista 27 minutes ago [-]
> Spotify is in the process of killing the librespot project
How could they possibly do that? They cannot prevent people or AI from reverse engineering their APIs.
TingPing 21 minutes ago [-]
Depends on how much they care. They can take down repos containing any keys, or use heuristics to block clients.
jarym 15 minutes ago [-]
> I think the golden age of music streaming is coming to an end
There was a world before Spotify. Though the music labels didn’t much like that world we can easily go back to it.
colordrops 6 minutes ago [-]
Why are they killing librespot?
protocolture 26 minutes ago [-]
>I think the golden age of music streaming is coming to an end.
Already ended for me. They killed the plan I was on, and then started sending me begging emails to sign up for a new, more expensive one.
But once I experienced their platform with ads, I just stopped using it entirely.
echelon 15 minutes ago [-]
> I think the golden age of music streaming is coming to an end.
It's just getting started.
We're going to vibe code the entire enshittified internet to be ours once again.
The dream of the 90's and 00's is alive again. The indie web is going to become unstoppable.
We can build anything of size and scale with the limited spare energy we have now. Every product will be reborn without big tech tendrils.
nalekberov 1 minutes ago [-]
> We're going to vibe code the entire enshittified internet to be ours once again.
It’s such a wishful thinking, but no it doesn’t and won’t work this way. Code != useful product. Plus today’s web is all about fabricated content, AI bots, cloudflare challenge walls and all other annoying stuff. The very idea of being able to create something in seconds is already killing internet.
punarinta 2 minutes ago [-]
Software has finally started to get faster, and I love it.
Pls don't consider this a spam, but if anyone is interested in a fast native Slack client, I'm building one, since Slack themselves don't want to: https://msga.app
exitb 4 minutes ago [-]
It’s not specific to this program, but I lately get this feeling that distributing widely a piece of software that exists for 5 days and saw a dozen releases in that period is stretching the open source trust model.
fishgoesblub 43 minutes ago [-]
Spotify used to use Qt for its desktop client. Good times.
Walf 27 minutes ago [-]
Fuck Spotify. Even if you don't care about the ethics of Daniel Ek's investments, the platform itself is crap. One of the lowest paying to artists, not paying at all unless they hit a threshold, and the catalogue is filling up with AI slop, which they push on users via 'radio' and 'mix' playlists, so they can pay even less royalties. No, thanks.
SuperMouse 26 minutes ago [-]
I've tested Deezer for half a year. The software quality was horrible.
Had a lot of crashes, it often took many many seconds to change between the songs and often getting stuck, the buffering algorithm was nuts and eating a lot of bandwidth.
Everything on a standard Pixel. Full 5G coverage was available.
Alternatives?
cmehdy 16 minutes ago [-]
Tidal is the last streaming service I use, split between that and a jellyfin+arrs setup coupled with buying music from artists directly.
Fuck Spotify and their rotten leadership. Was amongst the early adopters (2009). I'm sure they won't care for the loss, and I won't miss th when they're gone.
Walf 20 minutes ago [-]
Tried Tidal? The one gripe I have with it is no remote control, as in using phone to change what's currently playing on the device connected to my sound system, without it thinking I want to start playing on my phone.
Apple Music pays artists better, too.
zoky 31 minutes ago [-]
It supports WinAmp skins too… Dare I say it?
hdjrudni 26 minutes ago [-]
It really whips the llama's ass?
monster_truck 27 minutes ago [-]
I hacked the official client apart to hide some bullshit (like podcasts) and fix bugs that were pissing me off. Shared it exactly once and it stopped working within a month. Bugs were still there too
I stopped sharing after that.
figmert 13 minutes ago [-]
Have you seen Spicetify[0]? It allows for this kind of stuff and seems to be a lot more stable than doing it all manually.
Another site tricking users willing to look at the code into starting the repo instead.
How desperate do you need to be to resort to this?
ralfhn 44 minutes ago [-]
It takes five minutes to make a website look less obviously AI-generated.
brendanmc6 42 minutes ago [-]
It takes five seconds to scroll to the bottom and see that it's a Jekyll theme before posting a negative comment
danilafe 29 minutes ago [-]
Surely they're referring to the llm-isms in the text?
minitech 29 minutes ago [-]
A Jekyll theme from the same person as this project, yes.
p-e-w 3 minutes ago [-]
The website looks great to me, clean and simple, perfect for a project like this. “Not looking like it was made by AI” isn’t something I value for itself in a website, any more than “not looking like it was made with injection molding” is something I would value in a plastic item.
Either it’s good or it isn’t, but it’s not good or bad because of how it was made.
Rendered at 04:59:56 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time) with Vercel.
Would you be willing to share a bit more about this setup? The only thing keeping my on streaming is the fact that its almost impossible to find new music otherwise. I know LastFM exists but it just doesn't click for me the way that streaming does. I like discovering music organically.
- Actually listening to the music I have now. I think the art of listening through full albums has slowly died, but there is so much music we're ignoring because we just listen to Artist's top tracks.
- Word of mouth. Asking my friends what they listen to. This is a way that people used to discover music and I've found so much good music this way.
- Bandcamp. Bandcamp is SUCH a good way to discover new music. You can listen to the music in app, there are great articles and you can actually support the artists!
was a big question mark I had as well. The Clear Channel and iHeart stations are not known for discovery. Now if you find a college station or by some miracle an independent station you can get some new stuff. My favorite local college station is also ad free. They also have an app which I lean on as it's not the strongest transmitter so their coverage is spotty. Maybe there's other indy stations with apps as well??
https://threedradio.com/
I subscribe to them, have done so for ~10 years I reckon. I don't listen as much as I used to, but I want them to continue existing either way.
Be aware, the quality of their playlists is incredibly variable, but that's part of the charm. I guarantee you'll hear something you haven't heard before... for better or worse.
How could they possibly do that? They cannot prevent people or AI from reverse engineering their APIs.
There was a world before Spotify. Though the music labels didn’t much like that world we can easily go back to it.
Already ended for me. They killed the plan I was on, and then started sending me begging emails to sign up for a new, more expensive one.
But once I experienced their platform with ads, I just stopped using it entirely.
It's just getting started.
We're going to vibe code the entire enshittified internet to be ours once again.
The dream of the 90's and 00's is alive again. The indie web is going to become unstoppable.
We can build anything of size and scale with the limited spare energy we have now. Every product will be reborn without big tech tendrils.
It’s such a wishful thinking, but no it doesn’t and won’t work this way. Code != useful product. Plus today’s web is all about fabricated content, AI bots, cloudflare challenge walls and all other annoying stuff. The very idea of being able to create something in seconds is already killing internet.
Had a lot of crashes, it often took many many seconds to change between the songs and often getting stuck, the buffering algorithm was nuts and eating a lot of bandwidth.
Everything on a standard Pixel. Full 5G coverage was available.
Alternatives?
Fuck Spotify and their rotten leadership. Was amongst the early adopters (2009). I'm sure they won't care for the loss, and I won't miss th when they're gone.
Apple Music pays artists better, too.
I stopped sharing after that.
[0] https://spicetify.app/
How desperate do you need to be to resort to this?
Either it’s good or it isn’t, but it’s not good or bad because of how it was made.