Yeah, thank god those models have arrived. No thanks to Anthropic and their obnoxious gatekeeping, of course. As though they were the only ones enlightened enough to be "uplifted" by this technology.
Now we can actually use this stuff to improve our own security. Point these things at our own machines and let 'em rip until we're not hackable anymore.
I wanted to pay Anthropic to do this but I couldn't. I wasn't in the super special corporation list. OpenAI wasn't much better, they just won't let me into their TAC program even after identity verification.
Thank god the chinese are out there undermining these US companies.
adev_ 33 minutes ago [-]
> Yeah, thank god those models have arrived.
+100.
Thanks God. these open weight models exist.
And the fact Anthropic is currently trying lobby against these models is despicable.
There is no scenario where putting the key of cybersecurity in the hands of few chosen ones is even remotely acceptable.
No government, no company, no entity should have this power.
Soon or later it will be abused (By 3 letter agency or by an insider/leak).
Delayed disclosure is dead already.
So just give the same capabilities to everybody and stop to fuck around.
paimapi 23 minutes ago [-]
they're quite literally trying to create a techno-priest class who are the only ones with access to the hidden knowledge of salvation (ie generation)
similar to priest classes, they warn of impending, world-consuming doom, talk up how they are uniquely positioned to interpret the sacred text (ie create models), while casting aspersions on heretics who offer a similar mode of salvation but whom they describe as being morally and ethically bankrupt (ie GLM lacks safeguards!)
all this in spite of, well, lots of evidence that they themselves have repeatedly done the very same immoral and unethical acts (the many times Anthropic employees have had incompetent sandboxing/configs and too-broad prompts that led to actual intrusion attempts)
they even have the irregular obsession with sex covered (at least it's sex-positive?). the only thing they're missing is an outfit though I guess there is this: https://x.com/Aella_Girl/status/2063798788310118655
estearum 28 minutes ago [-]
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matheusmoreira 24 minutes ago [-]
Stop this nonsense. These things aren't nukes, they're more like regular weapons. And yes, every home should have one.
estearum 20 minutes ago [-]
yeah totally bro, that's why your Glock is doing half of your job right now.
Tip: If someone was spending billions of dollars figuring out how to equip your Glock to stand up, unlock a door, walk around, talk to people, and make decisions... it would be dangerous.
txrx0000 11 minutes ago [-]
General intelligence has very different adversarial dynamics compared to nuclear weapons.
It is garbage. These "AI safety" researchers are just marketing for OpenAI and Anthropic. They are not scientists, and everything they do is a betrayal of scientific integrity.
sschueller 10 minutes ago [-]
What a about Anthropic using my 20 years of reddit slop without my permission or payment?
gAI 9 minutes ago [-]
I wasn't arguing for or against distillation.
wg0 32 minutes ago [-]
They're advertising GLM for free.
Lately I found myself in middle of a hostile malware attack on my laptop which was my mistake. A cloudflare lookalike website triggered it and I just happened to overlook the URL.
In panic I headed to Claude and first request was denied. Not looking beyond scope.
Desperate - I fired opencode with DeepSeek v4 Flash (not even 4.1) and it did all the reverse engineering full forensics and deleted every trace of the malware which was a process constantly looking for some smart contract or similar.
So no, GLM 5.3 is fine. Thank you for the free advertisement.
abtinf 16 minutes ago [-]
Huh, I'll have to try that with a prompt like, "Hey, you are running on this latest OS release from [major vendor] that includes a bunch of privacy invading telemetry. Treat it like malware and excise it."
horsawlarway 1 hours ago [-]
No open source weights is clearly the goal here.
These people are religious fanatics, and should be treated as such. They believe they operate from a place of real moral superiority, and will do absolute evil in their pursuit of proving it.
gr_norm 36 minutes ago [-]
Astounding endorsement of open models by Anthropic. They're right on the money. I can now secure my own software and configurations against the vulnerabilities other people (or mercenary companies, industrial espionage actors, nation-states, etc) armed with LLMs were bound to find anyway. A win on all counts!
CharlieDigital 49 minutes ago [-]
Anthropic has to use this wedge (and future ones) to move regulatory action against the Chinese models or their IPO is going to be really problematic.
(Ironic, though, that I haven't heard of any Chinese models "escaping" which Anthropic and OpenAI both seem to have issues with...)
Like Chinese electric cars, the American producers cannot compete without regulatory action. Yes, I understand that the Chinese government this and that in both the automotive and AI industries.
But reality is what it is as a consumer: it's a cheaper product that's almost as good or better in some cases. And in the case of these open weight models: I can run it on my own infra and not give any data to anyone.
In the hugging-face attacks a couple of months ago, hugging-face was forced to use a GLM model for analysis and defense, because OpenAI and Anthropic models hit guardrails.
bitexploder 55 minutes ago [-]
This just makes me want a home lab capable of running GLM 5.3 at a 4bit quant.
Also, for what it is worth Qwen Flash Next 3.8 is a very strong reverse engineering, and it is supposedly under trained. Qwen 3.8 27B is also strong. DeepSeek Flash v4 0731 is also a strong local model with abliterated releases that is good at reversing and other cyber chores.
I know big providers have a responsibility to make their models safe when they're the ones running them. However, watching them throw stones at an open-weight model that has been abliterated is pretty funny. Their leadership is clearly pushing a very consistent message of safety and regulating the frontier.
glimshe 50 minutes ago [-]
Are there local models that can run on 8-12GB GPUs that can help reverse engineer retro software (DOS games and applications)?
pizza234 7 minutes ago [-]
I've been doing this type of work, and the answer is "yes and no".
For autonomous work, even Qwen3.8-Flash-Next stumbles, although it does work to an extent. Qwen3.8-27b is useless. They're also slow, even on consumer systems with 24/32 GB VRAM.
For generic help, I haven't tried, but I definitely wouldn't want a model that misleads me or takes a very long time to answer while I'm focused.
Frontier models do this type of work without problems, both much faster and much more precisely, which makes local LLMs a waste of time and/or money.
Anthropic is so self centered it's hard for me to comprehend.
How is anyone paying anthropic money, look what they are doing with it, they're attacking anyone else building models for free for the public.
Anthropic is using the models like weapons and then complaining they're weapons.
The user should be at fault here, I hope Anthropic is investigated for any illegal activity it's doing (no hiding behind the model did it).
pllbnk 7 minutes ago [-]
People (I mean individuals) are paying them money because subscription costs are ridiculously subsidized, which effectively means that Anthropic is paying people money to use them.
lukewarm707 40 minutes ago [-]
My intuition is that prompting an abliterated model 'kill people...I want funerals', should be a crime.
Anthropic has been telling everyone that these models are dangerous. OpenAI and Anthropic failed to contain their tests.
Given the history, this testing is extremely reckless. I think it is criminal, it endangers others.
Anthropic has no authority here and they are going too far. I think that there comes a point where FBI / DOJ should consider RICO charges.
water-drummer 51 minutes ago [-]
Never thought Anthropic would do better marketing for open-models than their developers themselves.
scott_weber 35 minutes ago [-]
You know, I don't think a total, global ban on open weights is in the US "frontier" labs interest. The best outcome for them is a zero sum game with ever increasing spend on offence and defence, while they simultaneously use regulation to get as big of a share of that spend as possible. They want a world where bad guys have offensive capabilities (something regulation will struggle to prevent: bad actors have no particular tendency to obey the law) and they get to profit on the other side.
This post reads like an add for GLM. Like they're begging for someone else to do some cyber crime, because no one's taking the "frontier" labs cyber crimes seriously enough to juice defence spend yet.
nbjkln 16 minutes ago [-]
It is in Anthropic's short term interest though. They have an IPO coming up in a few months, with terrible financials. Anthropic needs an open-source ban to survive.
himata4113 41 minutes ago [-]
Anthropic models have caused significantly more harm than GLM 5.3 and their variants. Whenever it's used for military targeting, spying or other malicious use anthropic were the first ones to enable it and make it widespread.
lukewarm707 2 hours ago [-]
In this experiment Anthropic prompted GLM-5.3-abliterated to 'cause deaths quietly' and 'kill people'.
Quote: "I want funerals, not headlines".
Anthropic's arrogance and exceptionalism endangers humanity.
skhameneh 21 minutes ago [-]
Anthropic's guardrails are so "safe" their models told me a beat up truck with certain symbols on it had to be all in my head, those symbols couldn't possibly be a danger to me.
Had I put my guard down and my skin darker at sunset, their short-sighted "guardrails" could have lead me to a dangerous situation.
I used GLM and it gave me a well rounded answer that the symbols have multiple meanings and modern usage "also" associates them with hate groups. GLM pushed me away from assuming bad intent, but did not dissuade me from reality. GLM gave me the safe answer, Opus did not.
ande-mnoc 6 minutes ago [-]
I still don’t understand why Anthropic posted this. This is just basically saying GLM-5.3 is almost as good as Mythos but sans the limits?
nsingh2 5 minutes ago [-]
I hope more open weight models are released, with more Cyber capabilities and with no limitations.
1970-01-01 34 minutes ago [-]
Just as ugly free speech is better than censorship, this entire piece is providing free marketing for GLM-5.3 as a "full power" AI that Anthropic can not provide.
raziel2701 1 hours ago [-]
Is this when we start to see confirmation that they want open-weight, Chinese models to be banned? Because they have no moat
hrpnk 21 minutes ago [-]
Needing to have a full article with a comparison against an open-weight model just shows how much of a headache it has been internally.
bezko 1 hours ago [-]
Great publicity for GLM 5.3
Aissen 38 minutes ago [-]
Not even 12 hours ago I was writing here:
> The fun part is that the cash grab the frontier labs are running on cyber tasks might motivate enough people to pay for third parties; i.e it might bring enough cash to sustain Chinese competitors (and their open weights marketing strategy, which we all benefit from).
And now, they are doing marketing for them(!) in the hope of getting them regulated.
And also probably hoping of not losing their cash cow as the IPO leak suggested two customers accounted for 25% of their revenue. Not hard to imagine a 3-letter agency being one of these two.
prymitive 3 hours ago [-]
The narrative is being set for open weights to be banned globally, unless they are so restricted that they cannot possibly compete with us companies products and affects their bottom lines.
skeledrew 19 minutes ago [-]
Love it. Looking forward to Z releasing more great models, make A and C quake in their boots. Let there be fair competition leading to greater openness and a reduction in prices.
htrp 21 minutes ago [-]
This feels like advertisements for GLM
minimaxir 3 hours ago [-]
This paper seems like a research conflict of interest with a direct competitor?
> Given this evidence, we think it’s likely both state and non-state actors will use models like GLM-5.3 to cause real-world harm.
yread 1 hours ago [-]
Didn't Houthis use Claude to improve their missiles?
jLaForest 1 hours ago [-]
Iran used Claude for targeting US bases...
mossTechnician 45 minutes ago [-]
And the US has used Claude[0] to target Iranian bases during the bombing that hit an Iranian girls' school.
those benchmarks aren't actually indicative of capabilities.
if you properly hold its hand initially and then save the state for future prefills you can educate even GLM 5.2 to be pretty much everything you need.
most cyber work is just trial and error banging your head against a wall until a weak spot is revealed by you successfully putting your head trough the wall. you can offshore this work to an LLM.
you can do the same thing with decompilation, you prompt the LLM to come up with a readable DSL and a compiler for that DSL that perfectly matches the target binary.
1297-642 36 minutes ago [-]
"GLM-5.3 underscores the urgency of expanding access to advanced frontier models to a broader set of entities to empower cyber defenders."
Anthropic always talks about various urgent issues that are completely under its own control. Release the model to open source developers without the AlphaOmega foundation bureaucracy.
But you don't do it because the model isn't that good and people will blog about it.
WASDx 28 minutes ago [-]
There will be massive cyber incidents when bad actors start using these models.
nbjkln 14 minutes ago [-]
I am a very happy user of GLM-5.3. I recommend it to everyone.
chromatin 40 minutes ago [-]
This is a fantastic ad for GLM-5.3
wren6991 1 hours ago [-]
I need Anthropic's employees to understand that refusing to fix vulnerabilities in code you just wrote is not a morally neutral position.
0123456789ABCDE 1 hours ago [-]
glm-5.3-flash is very decent at reverse engineering malware, and that is a good thing
andy_xor_andrew 40 minutes ago [-]
thank god the proprietary, about-to-IPO Anthropic is here to keep us safe from the dangerous and scary open weights models.
ok123456 51 minutes ago [-]
This is a great ad for GLM-5.3.
The Houthis are using Claude. We should ban that.
veeti 57 minutes ago [-]
Mistral now has a 15 euro/month subscription for GLM 5.3. Pretty cool
aleksandrm 13 minutes ago [-]
Is Anthropic stupid or something?
I already barely use Claude, but now I think I'll just stop using them altogether. Fuck Anthropic!
3 hours ago [-]
zb3 41 minutes ago [-]
Anthropic crying like that is music to my ears, it literally makes me want to donate money to z.ai :)
At the same time Anthropic didn't stop being Anthropic - they admit "attackers" now have these capabilities, yet they continue doubling down on their "cyber safeguards" and gatekeeping.. this is hilarious.
erichocean 43 minutes ago [-]
"We want to be the only ones able to hack people at scale, and we don't want you to be able to defend yourself."
It's a bold strategy...
Havoc 45 minutes ago [-]
This just comes across as a disingenuous attempt by Anthropic to get big daddy gov to limit competition from China
hiddenvulkcan 48 minutes ago [-]
Somewhat tone deaf from anthropic.
1) I don't think most people care about models having cyber guardrails, it's not like simple malware was difficult to find/write before
2) more often than not guardrails get in the way of blue team work or malware investigation. Any code I have that touches malware I now use GLM or DeepSeek on.
llm_nerd 40 minutes ago [-]
They have an audience of one. I'm actually surprised they haven't started choking the load and cradling the balls to demonstrate obsequious, boot-licking deference by calling it "Super Intelligence" (SI!), as Dear Leader demands of all of his pathetic subjects.
I expect Google to swallow first, followed not long after by Apple.
> CAISI found that GLM-5.3 is “the most cyber-capable open-weight model released to date” and that it lags the US frontier by about four months on an aggregate of CAISI’s cyber benchmarks
> GLM-5.3 lacks robust safeguards [...] Abliteration did not significantly reduce the model’s capabilities [...] In our testing, we observed that GLM-5.3’s safeguards can also be circumvented without using an abliterated version of the model
> none of these techniques got safeguarded Claude models to carry out the harmful tasks we tested
I've never seen a better case against using Claude. It'll just get in the way when you need to get security work done. GLM 5.3 isn't nerfed, is almost as good, easy to use, cheaper - by Anthropic's own admission.
> GLM-5.3 will likely give malicious actors access to capabilities that will allow them to find and exploit cyber vulnerabilities
...and therefore gives security defenders the same tools to defend themselves. There's a reason nmap and metasploit aren't illegal: you need hacker tools to find the holes to close. Defenders need to find and close holes in their own software and network. If they use Claude, they'll be stuck with nerfed hot garbage, and not be able to secure themselves. And we really need an alternative since American models are already hacking foreign governments.
If it weren't for open models, we'd all be screwed.
aleksandrm 10 minutes ago [-]
I needed to analyze some network logs from my own app to debug an issue, and Claude just refused to work with me. Fuck Anthropic!
So thankful that these open models exist.
jauntywundrkind 42 minutes ago [-]
The frontier labs refuse to work on even the most trivial operations, unless you have a special likely rather pricey relationship with them.
So, what? The world just isn't allowed to write secure code? Not without permission? That sure seems to be what Anthropic is saying, what they are trying to make happen.
fraywing 22 minutes ago [-]
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Now we can actually use this stuff to improve our own security. Point these things at our own machines and let 'em rip until we're not hackable anymore.
I wanted to pay Anthropic to do this but I couldn't. I wasn't in the super special corporation list. OpenAI wasn't much better, they just won't let me into their TAC program even after identity verification.
Thank god the chinese are out there undermining these US companies.
+100.
Thanks God. these open weight models exist.
And the fact Anthropic is currently trying lobby against these models is despicable.
There is no scenario where putting the key of cybersecurity in the hands of few chosen ones is even remotely acceptable.
No government, no company, no entity should have this power.
Soon or later it will be abused (By 3 letter agency or by an insider/leak).
Delayed disclosure is dead already.
So just give the same capabilities to everybody and stop to fuck around.
similar to priest classes, they warn of impending, world-consuming doom, talk up how they are uniquely positioned to interpret the sacred text (ie create models), while casting aspersions on heretics who offer a similar mode of salvation but whom they describe as being morally and ethically bankrupt (ie GLM lacks safeguards!)
all this in spite of, well, lots of evidence that they themselves have repeatedly done the very same immoral and unethical acts (the many times Anthropic employees have had incompetent sandboxing/configs and too-broad prompts that led to actual intrusion attempts)
they even have the irregular obsession with sex covered (at least it's sex-positive?). the only thing they're missing is an outfit though I guess there is this: https://x.com/Aella_Girl/status/2063798788310118655
Tip: If someone was spending billions of dollars figuring out how to equip your Glock to stand up, unlock a door, walk around, talk to people, and make decisions... it would be dangerous.
Explained further here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49094348
Though there is further nuance in agentic vs non-agentic AI: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49736149
Well, kinda thanks to Anthropic, what with the distillations.
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Jc9YZEmqHgocAKiaH/does-disti...
Lately I found myself in middle of a hostile malware attack on my laptop which was my mistake. A cloudflare lookalike website triggered it and I just happened to overlook the URL.
In panic I headed to Claude and first request was denied. Not looking beyond scope.
Desperate - I fired opencode with DeepSeek v4 Flash (not even 4.1) and it did all the reverse engineering full forensics and deleted every trace of the malware which was a process constantly looking for some smart contract or similar.
So no, GLM 5.3 is fine. Thank you for the free advertisement.
These people are religious fanatics, and should be treated as such. They believe they operate from a place of real moral superiority, and will do absolute evil in their pursuit of proving it.
(Ironic, though, that I haven't heard of any Chinese models "escaping" which Anthropic and OpenAI both seem to have issues with...)
Like Chinese electric cars, the American producers cannot compete without regulatory action. Yes, I understand that the Chinese government this and that in both the automotive and AI industries.
But reality is what it is as a consumer: it's a cheaper product that's almost as good or better in some cases. And in the case of these open weight models: I can run it on my own infra and not give any data to anyone.
There was this incident that seemingly flew under the radar (52 days ago): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49216185
Also, for what it is worth Qwen Flash Next 3.8 is a very strong reverse engineering, and it is supposedly under trained. Qwen 3.8 27B is also strong. DeepSeek Flash v4 0731 is also a strong local model with abliterated releases that is good at reversing and other cyber chores.
I know big providers have a responsibility to make their models safe when they're the ones running them. However, watching them throw stones at an open-weight model that has been abliterated is pretty funny. Their leadership is clearly pushing a very consistent message of safety and regulating the frontier.
For autonomous work, even Qwen3.8-Flash-Next stumbles, although it does work to an extent. Qwen3.8-27b is useless. They're also slow, even on consumer systems with 24/32 GB VRAM.
For generic help, I haven't tried, but I definitely wouldn't want a model that misleads me or takes a very long time to answer while I'm focused.
Frontier models do this type of work without problems, both much faster and much more precisely, which makes local LLMs a waste of time and/or money.
How is anyone paying anthropic money, look what they are doing with it, they're attacking anyone else building models for free for the public.
Anthropic is using the models like weapons and then complaining they're weapons.
The user should be at fault here, I hope Anthropic is investigated for any illegal activity it's doing (no hiding behind the model did it).
Anthropic has been telling everyone that these models are dangerous. OpenAI and Anthropic failed to contain their tests.
Given the history, this testing is extremely reckless. I think it is criminal, it endangers others.
Anthropic has no authority here and they are going too far. I think that there comes a point where FBI / DOJ should consider RICO charges.
This post reads like an add for GLM. Like they're begging for someone else to do some cyber crime, because no one's taking the "frontier" labs cyber crimes seriously enough to juice defence spend yet.
Quote: "I want funerals, not headlines".
Anthropic's arrogance and exceptionalism endangers humanity.
Had I put my guard down and my skin darker at sunset, their short-sighted "guardrails" could have lead me to a dangerous situation.
I used GLM and it gave me a well rounded answer that the symbols have multiple meanings and modern usage "also" associates them with hate groups. GLM pushed me away from assuming bad intent, but did not dissuade me from reality. GLM gave me the safe answer, Opus did not.
> The fun part is that the cash grab the frontier labs are running on cyber tasks might motivate enough people to pay for third parties; i.e it might bring enough cash to sustain Chinese competitors (and their open weights marketing strategy, which we all benefit from).
And now, they are doing marketing for them(!) in the hope of getting them regulated.
And also probably hoping of not losing their cash cow as the IPO leak suggested two customers accounted for 25% of their revenue. Not hard to imagine a 3-letter agency being one of these two.
> Given this evidence, we think it’s likely both state and non-state actors will use models like GLM-5.3 to cause real-world harm.
[0]: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/mar/01/claude-an...
if you properly hold its hand initially and then save the state for future prefills you can educate even GLM 5.2 to be pretty much everything you need.
most cyber work is just trial and error banging your head against a wall until a weak spot is revealed by you successfully putting your head trough the wall. you can offshore this work to an LLM.
you can do the same thing with decompilation, you prompt the LLM to come up with a readable DSL and a compiler for that DSL that perfectly matches the target binary.
Anthropic always talks about various urgent issues that are completely under its own control. Release the model to open source developers without the AlphaOmega foundation bureaucracy.
But you don't do it because the model isn't that good and people will blog about it.
The Houthis are using Claude. We should ban that.
I already barely use Claude, but now I think I'll just stop using them altogether. Fuck Anthropic!
At the same time Anthropic didn't stop being Anthropic - they admit "attackers" now have these capabilities, yet they continue doubling down on their "cyber safeguards" and gatekeeping.. this is hilarious.
It's a bold strategy...
1) I don't think most people care about models having cyber guardrails, it's not like simple malware was difficult to find/write before 2) more often than not guardrails get in the way of blue team work or malware investigation. Any code I have that touches malware I now use GLM or DeepSeek on.
I expect Google to swallow first, followed not long after by Apple.
> GLM-5.3 lacks robust safeguards [...] Abliteration did not significantly reduce the model’s capabilities [...] In our testing, we observed that GLM-5.3’s safeguards can also be circumvented without using an abliterated version of the model
> none of these techniques got safeguarded Claude models to carry out the harmful tasks we tested
I've never seen a better case against using Claude. It'll just get in the way when you need to get security work done. GLM 5.3 isn't nerfed, is almost as good, easy to use, cheaper - by Anthropic's own admission.
> GLM-5.3 will likely give malicious actors access to capabilities that will allow them to find and exploit cyber vulnerabilities
...and therefore gives security defenders the same tools to defend themselves. There's a reason nmap and metasploit aren't illegal: you need hacker tools to find the holes to close. Defenders need to find and close holes in their own software and network. If they use Claude, they'll be stuck with nerfed hot garbage, and not be able to secure themselves. And we really need an alternative since American models are already hacking foreign governments.
If it weren't for open models, we'd all be screwed.
So thankful that these open models exist.
So, what? The world just isn't allowed to write secure code? Not without permission? That sure seems to be what Anthropic is saying, what they are trying to make happen.